Hey all, we weren't aiming for perfection here. I used an old blue screen, it had a lot of wrinkles. We did try and light it well though making sure that the subject had a well defined outline. And when we turned off the keylight on the subject, she was perfectly silhouetted. It's known that there should not be small parts of the clothing, hair or even hair hanging loose as you want a sharp separation from the background. But we chose not to. We chose to try and key out wet hair being thrashed around to see how well the HVX did. Well, I think it did great!

Foundry's keylight was used to pull the matte.

http://www.motivitypictures.com/hvx200/blue_screen_test.html

Very good keying. Very good camera for Indies.

That is crazy! How did you do the water?

Looks amazing, what are the camera settings and how did you key it? This has to be an Ultimatte or some serious plugin.
All of the footage that you have posted for this camera is incredible but this takes the cake.

That is crazy! How did you do the water?

Looks amazing, what are the camera settings and how did you key it? This has to be an Ultimatte or some serious plugin.
All of the footage that you have posted for this camera is incredible but this takes the cake.

Well we used Foundry's Keylight in After Effects.
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_overview.aspx?ui=36DA4811-4039-477C-AFBF-32EC2C19A715


I don't think the camera settings really mattered, but it was shot in 60p. And there was NOT a lot of work, i just selected the blue that I wanted to pull from the matte, a few settings were tweaked like screen strength and what not, and since spill supression is built right into keylight I didn't have to worry about that. Since we lit her seperately there wasn't a lot of spill to begin with.

The water in my opinion could have been better, I could have put a lot of time in to it, but it was a test... Keylight pulled the blue through the glass and kept the reflections.

All in all this yielded very clean results...

Wow, I'm impressed!

WHOA. Nice work guys!!

Very nice! Did you shoot DVCproHD 720 or SD DV50?

Good work, man. btw, love the Finding Nemo music track with it.

Very nice! Did you shoot DVCproHD 720 or SD DV50?

Good work, man. btw, love the Finding Nemo music track with it.

Thanks... we shot 720p60 DVCPRO100, you can tell it's overcranked, you can't shoot SD overcranked... plus keying in DV has never yielded very good results, so i probably wouldn't try it.. with HD there is more color information there and the matte is easier to pull.

Duh, the slow mo would be a slight hint there. My bad. I guess because you posted an SD sized clip my thinking was you might have tried DV50 for it's milder compression. So it keys well in 720p? Awesome. My experience even with HDV is that keying is much better in the high def formats.

Again, thanks for the excellent examples.

Excellent work. I especially like the bar scene because the reflection on the bar "sells" the shot. The average person wouldn't even think it's a composite.

One tip though -- the reflection should be flipped 180-degrees from vertical, not angled based on the diagonal perspective of the bar in this view. (Consider that anything sitting on the bar, which we assume should be level, would also be 100% vertical, not angled.)

the reflection should be flipped 180-degrees from vertical, not angled based on the diagonal perspective of the bar in this view. (Consider that anything sitting on the bar, which we assume should be level, would also be 100% vertical, not angled.)

Thanks, yea I know, it's trick i do in photoshop a lot... I just got lazy.

:)

Well, I suppose that the HVX200 so far seems to be the camera to beat for chroma keying in the <$10,000 range. Now, let me pick my jaw up off the floor because that was great for me since I plan to do a lot of green screen work. =)

Hi - Great work Sir

How did you do the last scence with the bar shot .This is very clever stuff I noticed that you even had reflections of the girl on the bar .

How did you get the virtual bar set ? would this be serious magigs ultra communicator ? I am curious because I am intrested in using virtual sets my self .

Thanks for sharing your work - Alfred

Hi - Great work Sir

How did you do the last scence with the bar shot .This is very clever stuff I noticed that you even had reflections of the girl on the bar .

How did you get the virtual bar set ? would this be serious magigs ultra communicator ? I am curious because I am intrested in using virtual sets my self .

Thanks for sharing your work - Alfred

It's just a simple composite, with a few mattes on the lower part of her body. And this isn't a virtual set, it's a picture off of the internet, If i were to build a set it would be done in Maya. Anyway I'm glad you liked it.

I just showed the clip to our keying specialist who basically spends hours shooting key every day. It took at least 60-seconds for him to turn around and look at me with a grin saying "you got me, it's a key job." For sixty seconds he had not realised it. Then I told him it was an HVX and not a Varicam and without a beat turned around, popped open his Firefox and logged into B&H. Geez, I wonder why.

I just showed the clip to our keying specialist who basically spends hours shooting key every day. It took at least 60-seconds for him to turn around and look at me with a grin saying "you got me, it's a key job." For sixty seconds he had not realised it. Then I told him it was an HVX and not a Varicam and without a beat turned around, popped open his Firefox and logged into B&H. Geez, I wonder why.

That's funny, and you know what? This was with an old blue screen with wrinkles, if we had put a lot of time into it and used a pro matte green screen i bet the results would have been awesome...

Awesome!!! Outstanding work.

I keep telling people this is possible, but I don't have the open space to pull off the lighting. Can you please share how much space was required, what lighting you used, distance from screen, distance of girl from screen, and lights on her? Pretty please? :)

Thanks Steve...

I would say the distance from the girl and the screen were about 7 feet.

The room we were in was about 800 square feet.

a 1k soft bank was on from the right side, and a kicker in the back for hair light, then we lit the blue screen with one 650 Fresnel and two 300 frenels.

i think that was it...

I may be missing something.


Awesome!!! Outstanding work.

I keep telling people this is possible, but I don't have the open space to pull off the lighting. Can you please share how much space was required, what lighting you used, distance from screen, distance of girl from screen, and lights on her? Pretty please? :)

Nice job!! That is some wicked stuff.

I like the opening as well; Lightwave? Maya?

Thanks Bill, It was Maya...

Nice job!! That is some wicked stuff.

I like the opening as well; Lightwave? Maya?

Thanks Bill, It was Maya...
Outstanding Cassidy. That must of taken some time.

I would say the distance from the girl and the screen were about 7 feet. The room we were in was about 800 square feet.

Thanks for that info. That definitely supports what I've been saying. I believe it's time to look for a studio to rent time in. But on shoots that already have secured large locations, I'll be givin the green screen a workout, and see what's possible.

Inspiring work, Cassidy!!

Thanks, Cassidy, for your inspiring work. In a moment I was starting to hesitate about buying the HVX, with the announcement of the new Shootout, but seeing your work was reassuring. There are strenghts this camera offers that no other in the pricerange can achieve (the variable frame rates and 4:2:2 are the major catch, for me).

Seeing this type of results can be achieved makes me confident on the camera purchase. If I cannot do things of similar quality, than it is ME who is not up to par, and not the equipment.

I want the tool that I can better express myself, and the HVX seems like it. Thanks again. And excelent job!

EDIT- Cassidy, can you guys do some tests with 1080p? Does it key as well?

I want the tool that I can better express myself, and the HVX seems like it. Thanks again. And excelent job!

EDIT- Cassidy, can you guys do some tests with 1080p? Does it key as well?

Yea, this camera helps to express yourself giving you freedom to create within streamlined and challenging budgets, it's where the HVX excels... When we set up our green screen I'll make sure to shoot in the 1080p mode.

Well we used Foundry's Keylight in After Effects.
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_overview.aspx?ui=36DA4811-4039-477C-AFBF-32EC2C19A715


You may or may not be interested in the emotional roller coaster I just experienced in the last two minutes. When I saw your footage I was excited about the possibilities that I realized are open to me with my new HVX200. Then I clicked on the link you provided, and I was disappointed to find out it costs $2,500; of course it's easy to achieve great keys like this when you can afford high end software. Then I went over to the After Effects website and realized that this plugin comes with AE Professional (which I'm about to purchase) and the link is for the Discreet plugin. Happiness again!

I really don't have much of a point, except that I'm looking forward to using the HVX200+AE to push my footage beyond what I was able to do in the DV realm and I appreciate you demonstrating the possibilities.

--Jeremy

keylight comes with after effects pro.
it's a lot less than $2,500.
Darrell
FIRST CINEMA PICTURES

The only 'problem' I see is through the glass during lighter backgrounds. It is very 'noisy'. Did anybody else see that? Is there a fix for it, can it be tweaked out? Dont mean to be critical, this is excellent stuff. Cant wait to try it myself.

td

$2,500? Well that's not too bad for the results it gives. You could very well buy Shake for about the same price. Still, if it works, it works, ya know? =)

keylight comes with after effects pro.
Darrell, I see my story was not exciting enough to keep you reading through the third act:
Then I went over to the After Effects website and realized that this plugin comes with AE Professional (which I'm about to purchase) and the link is for the Discreet plugin. Happiness again!
:-)

--Jeremy

Yes, there is a way around that, I could have created a matte for the glass, and keyed that seperately, put a garbage matte around it and only be concerned about the girl and her hair... then I would go back and key out the blue of the glass on a seperate layer... so it would be attainable. This was a really quick key, I had a lot of work to do that day.

:)


The only 'problem' I see is through the glass during lighter backgrounds. It is very 'noisy'. Did anybody else see that? Is there a fix for it, can it be tweaked out? Dont mean to be critical, this is excellent stuff. Cant wait to try it myself.

td

$2,500? Well that's not too bad for the results it gives. You could very well buy Shake for about the same price. Still, if it works, it works, ya know? =)

Yes, I have used shake as well, AWESOME program. But I have used photoshop for 7 years, and when i opened up after effects for the first time 3 years ago, I felt like I was animating in photoshop, very similiar visually, but I won't say that the other options are not excellent solutions, they probably are.

Cassidy,

How big was your greenscreen?

I'm going to be doing some greenscreen work, and doing shots similar to yours, it's just hard to figure out how big I want the screen because while I won't be doing very wide shots, I will have to place my talent a good 10 feet from the screen. Just curious what sized you used.

Footage looks great! Good job!

Thanks. Our blue screen was about 8 feet wide by 5 feet high.

Cassidy,

How big was your greenscreen?

I'm going to be doing some greenscreen work, and doing shots similar to yours, it's just hard to figure out how big I want the screen because while I won't be doing very wide shots, I will have to place my talent a good 10 feet from the screen. Just curious what sized you used.

Footage looks great! Good job!