View Full Version : JVC HD 100 gets a major upgrade


Glenn Gipson
April 24th, 2006, 10:27 AM
It's called the JVC HD 200U, and it can do 60p and accept 16mm PL Mount prime film lenses.

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/press_res.jsp?model_id=MDL101623&feature_id=08

Craig Terott
April 24th, 2006, 10:42 AM
HD100U will be discontinued?

Eric Gorski
April 24th, 2006, 11:23 AM
awesome. very.

Craig Terott
April 24th, 2006, 11:26 AM
I prefer the $5299 price tag on the HD100.

Wayne Morellini
April 24th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Is that for real, what are they going to put in the sub $7K segment to replace it?.

Ram Ganesh
April 24th, 2006, 11:48 AM
they've added 60P
added flip image in LCD (must be very easy)

and increased the price by 2.5K?

what else is different?

Michael Dalton
April 24th, 2006, 12:36 PM
if this camera is Intra frame compression then it is something, just please tell me this Group of Pixel thing (GOP) is a thing of the past and camera manufactures figured out we want simplified processes not bad ideas that makes life difficult in post.

"HDV720/60P true progressive image acquisition due to the implementation of JVC’s new “Super Encoder” developed for the latest line of ProHD products. "

Is this an old thing or a new thing?

Paulo Teixeira
April 24th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Now this was unexpected.

Steven-Marc Couchouron
April 24th, 2006, 01:02 PM
Don't forget the JVC GY-HD250U with HD-SDI output!

$8,995. Delivery October 2006.

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/press_res.jsp?model_id=MDL101625&feature_id=08

Joe Carney
April 24th, 2006, 02:52 PM
The hd250u is 8995 without lense, priced closer to 11K depending on lense option. The HD200U is do out in Nov. Price right at 8K. No they are not discontinuing the hd-100u. It's a real international hit. Lots of people using it here to do news type capture of NAB.

At first I was upset, but I'm only looking for 24p and I got the IDX battery option too.

The 250 is sweet though.

The 200 is primarily directed at sports and live events in the field.


The 2/3 inch 3chip cmos camera is on indefinite hold.

Jay Kavi
April 24th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Wow, I totally slept on JVC. The HD200 looks like an amazing camera, but too bad they released the HD100 first.

Joe Carney
April 24th, 2006, 06:50 PM
bascally a new improved codec (720 60p), image flip for the lcd.
I wouldn't be surprised (just guessing) at a price drop for the hd-100. I don't need 60p, but I can see why others would.

This appears to be a very good NAB for JVC, from all the traffic and comments I've heard on the floor. And the HD 100 with P+S Tecknic and a cook prime in 24p is a thing to behold.

Jason Varner
April 24th, 2006, 09:25 PM
If the new HD200 uses an Mpeg-4 encoder over an advanced Mpeg-2 I'd be really stoked. Mpeg-2 is dead it just doesn't know it yet. The price seems a little high given the overall lack of improvement, but I seem to recall the price for the HD100 being in the 6-7K range and then it hit the street @ 5 G's. I'll bet that in November you can get this at B&H for 6295. Hopefully it will have some new glass or even a lenseless option. The PL adapter sounds awesome but I also remember a similar option for the HD100 that never materialized. HD-SDI is a cool option for studio work but still has a ways to go before it will be useful in the field. Overall, bully to you JVC. It's nice to see a company attack the market and improve on a camera that's not even a year old. Are you listening Canon?

K. Forman
April 25th, 2006, 06:29 AM
Canon can't hear you, but I wish they could.

Brian Standing
April 25th, 2006, 06:51 AM
Has JVC fixed the split-screen problem in the HD100 / HD200?

Wayne Morellini
April 25th, 2006, 07:16 AM
Has anybody heard what codec data rate this uses?

This definitely is the camera the 100 should have been at it's present price.

I hope it uses some super sensor design at least, even cheap mid range sensors are getting 90db ranges and SN in the high 60's (or low 70's). The 2/3rd FIllfactory Ibis5a could do that (using external ADC) was around $100 in bulk, and is known to be excellent choice for 3 chip, not to mention the lower end Altasens 1/2inch 720p version.

If they has used sensors of that grade then I would definitely say the HD100/200/250 would be more worth their price. Especially if we got 35mb/s+ variable codec.

Paulo Teixeira
April 29th, 2006, 10:03 PM
Wayne Morellini,
I’m been waiting for either Sony or JVC to have a 1/3rd inch 3CCD camera that runs the tape faster to 35 mega bits per second but they aren’t paying attention. It makes perfect cense. Why not? Your right, it would be more worth the price if they listen.

Wayne Morellini
April 30th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Well, it is a marketing thing, over time it should become available, but for now they are selling plenty of lesser gear.

As for the rest of my previous post ;), I saw a post with the real information immediately after I posted it (I think it might have been posted as I was still writing) so much for those hopeful wishes.

I clearly think there is a prosumer market for something better. If they ever go to 19Mb/s Mpeg4/h264 HDTV, or bluray versions (that canbe even faster) then there will be a clear need for something better. I clearly think that the marks, in Mpeg2 datarates are: upto 50Mb/s for prosumer video, and upto 100Mb/s for pro video, and beyond that for cinema. So there is room for $4K+ cameras to do 35Mb/s, and $15K+ cameras to do 50Mb/s, and more expensive cameras 100Mb/s.

The main problems are artifacting to do with complex scene changes and curves, like ripples, waves, leafy scenery. These just stick out at a audience, the larger the screen the worse it is. If they were really smart they could design it to isolate and properly encode these. But for Blurry motion and things whizzing by, it doesn't matter so much, as long as they can program it to preserve the authentic shape and contrast, not macro blocks. Preserving the shape at the expense of it's internal detail should be able to be done with similar amounts of data.

Mike Tesh
April 30th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Is this PL mount adapter a separate purchase from these cameras? If so does anyone have any idea on price? And do you think JVC will make it available for the HD100 as well? In other words will they offer a firmware update to add the image flip?

Simon Antoniou
May 2nd, 2006, 10:00 AM
Although I woudent need 60p, it is a much better option for producing more professional looking slow motion, no?

Joe Carney
May 2nd, 2006, 10:46 AM
Yes for certain types of slomo (film based usually uses 120 or even 240fps for slowmo).
It will also be great for recording sporting events which was one of the original reasons 720x60p was created in the first place. The transition to 1080i for final broadcast should be very smooth.

Simon Antoniou
May 2nd, 2006, 11:25 AM
And I understand our current option on the HD100 would be shooting in SD50 and uprezzing?