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Ash Greyson
January 23rd, 2007, 10:50 PM
Not really a flaw... just a unique situation. This will usually happen when doing something you should not do (switching lens with camera on, plugging in the B&W viewfinder while hot, etc.) Most cameras in this class dont have those options and most people are not fully aware of the care you must take.

To be the safest, only change peripherals with the battery off.



ash =o)

Kalil Jalili
January 23rd, 2007, 10:56 PM
can a different technition fix it?

How long will it take the canon to repaire it the fuse?

thank u

Greg Boston
January 23rd, 2007, 11:02 PM
Not really a flaw... just a unique situation. This will usually happen when doing something you should not do (switching lens with camera on, plugging in the B&W viewfinder while hot, etc.) Most cameras in this class dont have those options and most people are not fully aware of the care you must take.

To be the safest, only change peripherals with the battery off.

I never had any issue with my XL2/FU1000 combo, but others have. There was an interesting story from someone who had this combo and it was found to be a defective wiring harness in the FU1000 causing a short. I believe it was in a post here on DV-INFO and IIRC, the person was in Germany. The gist of the story was that it was a possible weakness in the design of the wiring harness, and not so much the XL2.

This would not have manifested itself on the XL1/s because they use the battery tray adapter to power the FU-1000 so power never goes through the camera body.

-gb-

Rainer Hoffmann
January 24th, 2007, 02:05 AM
Greg, you are right. The person you mentioned is me. Indeed Canon Germany acknowledged that the wiring of the FU-1000 was faulty. They repaired it at no further cost.

Ash, I allways powered my XL2 down before I removed the lens or plugged something in. Still, one fine day, the camera wouldn't power up. End of story. Actually, as an engineer, I would call this a design flaw. At least they could have made the main fuse a LRU (airline slang for Line Replaceable Unit, meaning any chimp can replace it while the aircraft is sitting on the ramp). Then you could carry a bag of 10 cent fuses with you while shooting.

Anyway, since Canon changed the wiring in my FU-1000 there haven't been any further issues. I keep my fingers crossed...

EDIT: Kalil, I can't tell how long the repair will take in your case. It depends on where you live and where the next Canon service center is. It took one week over here in Germany, using Canon Professional Service (CPS).

Kalil Jalili
January 24th, 2007, 11:07 AM
Hey, and thank you all for the infos u gave me,
but, I am not using any FU-1000 BW view finder!

I use the original view finder that came with my XL2.

Like Rainer Hoffmann said it was "one fine day" when it stopped working.

I am in Afghanistan and I have been filming this Documentary for the past few months.

anyway thank you all.

bye

John Miller
January 24th, 2007, 11:15 AM
I had a fuse in my PDX-10 blow. According to the service manual, there are about 4 microfuses, directly soldered to the circuit board.

Supposedly, they are designed to protect the device from faulty batteries putting out too much power.

Greg Boston
January 24th, 2007, 11:16 AM
Greg, you are right. The person you mentioned is me.

Thank you Rainer for helping out my memory. ;-)

Apparently this b/w viewfinder problem doesn't apply to Kalil since he says he isn't using the FU-1000.

-gb-

Rainer Hoffmann
January 24th, 2007, 11:52 AM
Thank you Rainer for helping out my memory. ;-)

You are welcome, Greg.

Apparently this b/w viewfinder problem doesn't apply to Kalil since he says he isn't using the FU-1000.

-gb-

Yes, and that scares me. So a faulty FU-1000 wiring is not the only source of the problem. Well, let's hope the best.

Richard Alvarez
January 24th, 2007, 11:57 AM
I was one of the first with this problem, and had a LOOONG and sordid runaround, finally resulting in a replaced camera. I shoot with the FU-1000

Short version is this.

The camera was working on a documentary shoot. I put it in 'standby' and moved to a new location. Went to take it out of 'standby' and it was dead. Zip, zilch, nada... with the cassette inside.

Shipped it to canon. They claimed the fuse was blown, because I had MISTHREADED the lens, damaging the lens mount, and blowing the fuse. I argued, but to no avail. I paid $670 to have the ccd block remounted and the fuse replaced.

I received the camera.

I was reading this board, and someone asked a question about the FU-1000 viewfinder. To answer the question, I pluged in the camera w/viewfinder, and powered it up. (NO LENS MOUNTED ON IT AT ALL). I looked in the viewfinder, typed my answer on the board, and then the camera was dead.

Two days after it had been returned.

I sent the camera BACK. Spoke with the Canon rep. He said the replaced the fuse again, that there was a "KNOWN ISSUE" with some of the viewfinders. And they would send the camera back. I told them that was unacceptable, that I couldn't rely on that camera any more.

My dealer (God bless him) stepped in, and got me a new camera.

I don't know if they 'rewired' the fu-1000, upgraded the fuses or what. But I have had no problems with the fuse since, and I've had the cam for two years now. (Knock wood.)

And yes, I ALWAYS power down before changing lenses, etc.

Bill Zens
January 29th, 2007, 10:16 PM
Boy, this is like a reunion of sorts... There's all sorts of things you can do to set off the fuse. I did mine when plugging it into (I think) a faulty 1394 port on my computer. Pfft... camera stopped working.

While there's a bunch of us on this board who have had problems, I think most of us (with the exception of Richard) have had the problem quickly fixed by Canon.

I guess "quickly" is a relative term, and could be a little longer from Afghanistan, than, say, Seattle.

Since I had my cam fixed, I only let it touch the computer when uploading blue barn presets into the cam, and am very careful with lens changes, or anything slightly sensitive...

Bill

John Threat
January 14th, 2009, 09:44 PM
My XL2 Blew on a shoot.

FU-1000
16x Manual lens
It happened Xmas Day on a shoot.
Boy. That was a Kicker.

It's in the shop now. I'll report back how much it's going to run me and what they say. The initial cost they put down as $499 or sommat to fix it. I wonder if that'll go up or down.


JT

John Threat
February 4th, 2009, 07:09 PM
They charged me $430 after taxes to fix the blown board/fuse and the fu-1000 took no repair costs, but they replaced the microphone holder for free.

The price is dropping - as the camera fades into the sunset :)

Dale Guthormsen
February 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Good evening,


My fu 1000 came slightly unplugged lifting it in and out of the truck, ushed it back in and bang, end of fuse!!


I recomend using a tye rap around the cord and handle to prevent it!!!

Cost me 407.00 to get it fixed!!!!

thats pretty steep to change a fuse!!!

it is a great view finder, just be careful!!!

Peter James
August 6th, 2009, 10:19 PM
My XL2 died last week. Unfortunately I lent it out to a friend so I do not know 100% what led up to it.

I took it into a 3rd party repairer and they confirmed the fuse was blown but also a number of components in the internal power supply section were obviously damaged and needed to be replaced including a coil/inductor that was obviously to the eye that it was blown.

I have not seen the camera yet but the repairer says that it is showing too much green in recordings when white balance is set to auto but is better when the fluro or incandescent preset is selected.

As I said, I was not there when it failed and can only state that it was running on batteries and had possibly just had the 3X lens swapped over but the user states the power was off.

I will report further findings after testing.