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Kevin Shaw
December 19th, 2006, 11:25 AM
Are you telling me that I can go down to Blockbuster
or Hollywood video and rent a full length HD DVD now?

I don't know about the retail stores, but the Blockbuster web site lists almost 150 titles on HD-DVD at http://www.blockbuster.com/online/catalog/listDetails?listRef=hdDVD, and a similar number on Blu-ray. It's a little tricky though: you have to go to the title and click on the "All Editions" option to see the HD version.

Guy Cochran
December 19th, 2006, 01:58 PM
Netflix has a pretty nice HD DVD selection.

If you have an XBOX 360 you can get a USB HD DVD External drive for $199.
Comes with the remote and King Kong too.

There's already hacks out on the net to make the USB drive work on a PC too. Wonder how much MS loses on those USB drives. They sell the XBOX 360's at a loss.

Shawn Jodoin
December 19th, 2006, 06:45 PM
Do any of you guys subscribe to the theory that in some cases HD
looks to real for certain movies? The only taste of true HD I have
had the opportunity to view was at the Good Guys here in Reno
before they closed shop. They had this mini theater room set up for
displaying their projector units. The lights were all set perfect by
light meters for each unit according to the lumens and so forth. They
demonstrated this movie I guess it would be the equivalent of Space Station
9 or something. My first impression was that the lady looked more like
someone wearing a costume, goofy almost with that much clarity. Maybe
it wasn’t shot or edited to 24p, I doubt it was shot on film to begin with?

My other experience is with my progressive scan Toshiba connected to
my LCD Panasonic via HDMI port. When I watched the latest Star Wars
move the battle scene in the beginning was so crisp that it made R2D2 look
more like a toy. What so you guys think and thoughts on this?

C.S. Michael
December 19th, 2006, 08:40 PM
I have the XBox HD-DVD player.

So far, I've watched about a half dozen movies in the HD-DVD format.

Probably the best was "The Searchers," a 1956 John Wayne movie. That's the really cool thing about HD-DVD...it may revive interest in some older, beautifully shot films.

As far as the new Star Wars goes.... I do think that HD-DVD exposes the flaws of CGI. But I felt that some of the Star Wars CGI was flawed upon first viewing the films in the theater. CGI can be a useful storytelling tool, but it's a poor substitute for reality. I'll take real snow over CGI snow every time...

Boyd Ostroff
December 19th, 2006, 08:46 PM
When I watched the latest Star Wars
move the battle scene in the beginning was so crisp that it made R2D2 look
more like a toy.

Personally I hate the CGI in all the new Star Wars movies and it has nothing to do with HD or the medium itself. It has a comic book appearance, which may very well be what Lucas wanted, but I get tired of that very quickly.

But you still seem to be talking about standard definition progressive scan DVD's and not HD DVD's...

Shawn Jodoin
December 19th, 2006, 09:29 PM
Personally I hate the CGI in all the new Star Wars movies and it has nothing to do with HD or the medium itself. It has a comic book appearance, which may very well be what Lucas wanted, but I get tired of that very quickly.

But you still seem to be talking about standard definition progressive scan DVD's and not HD DVD's...


Hi Boyd, I was not speeking of SD inside the Good Guys, my reference to
progressive scan one more time I know, was only to indicate that -even
in SD-progressive scan R2 looks like a toy - I would hate to see how bad
he looks in HD.