View Full Version : Any UK date and Price?
Paul Rickford August 7th, 2006, 09:29 AM Canon UK have the press release up on the HV10 quoting September but no details or specs on the camcorder site as yet.
Best myself and a dealer have got so far from Canon UK, once we have found someone that even knows about it's existence is 'No idea of when or how much, but can't see it being available before Nov' -???!!!
Anyone this side of the pond have some better inside info on the UK position?
Thanks
Sharyn Ferrick August 7th, 2006, 04:31 PM Here is a link to a take on it in the UK
http://www.dvdoctor.net/
Sharyn
Paul Rickford August 8th, 2006, 01:53 AM Thanks for Link, still picking myself up from the floor, is that really true £1,299 v $1,299 ??? - how many are they going to import?- just one for the Showroom at HO?
Sharyn Ferrick August 8th, 2006, 02:45 AM I find it hard to believe that those prices will hold, when the units arrive and start shipping more realistic prices will show up, I would think and this is just a guess it will be more in the 800-900 pounds sterling range
Sharyn
Ian Sturtivant August 8th, 2006, 04:46 AM €1858 here in Germany.
http://www2.computeruniverse.net/info.asp?id=90196215
I think I'll pass on it at that price.
Jason Kan August 8th, 2006, 07:50 AM CA$2000 in Canada (about US$1750)
Paul Rickford August 8th, 2006, 08:18 AM Looks like Canon Know they have something special here,
Let's hope it lives up to the hype, I still want one but it's going to have to be a major improvement over the Sony HC3 at that price point.
Stu Holmes August 8th, 2006, 10:19 AM Usual deeply unfortunate European/UK pricing of a model.
$1299 is equivalent to .... GBP 681 at current rates (1GBP = 1.9USD) !!!
Really quite incredible the gall of the pricing for UK&European markets.
Thomas Richter August 8th, 2006, 02:53 PM Well part of it is VAT or sales tax. But the rest is just market skimming. In Europe the high def fans are more upmarket than in the states as HD has not become mainstream in Europe yet (apart from everyone buying HD ready devices, there is pretty little HD to watch). Must be the higher native resolution of the PAL standard ;-)
Count me in for being against "European camera price inflation".
Stu Holmes August 9th, 2006, 12:28 PM Well part of it is VAT or sales tax.Ah but they have sales tax in rest of world as well. Admittedly not the stupid 17.5% in UK..
Thomas Richter August 9th, 2006, 12:34 PM Yet, US prices are - as far as I know - usually quoted without as not every state in the US levies a sales tax (and also percentages vary).
Donald White August 10th, 2006, 08:52 AM B & H has just listed the HV10 at $1499...
Paul Doherty August 10th, 2006, 10:20 AM Because Canon don't make any camcorders in Europe I think they get hit by EU anti-dumping tariffs which can be severe.
Jason Kan August 10th, 2006, 11:58 AM It's $1299.
B & H has just listed the HV10 at $1499...
Donald White August 10th, 2006, 03:34 PM Then it's been changed - I looked at it three different times @ $1499
Stu Holmes August 10th, 2006, 03:44 PM Because Canon don't make any camcorders in Europe I think they get hit by EU anti-dumping tariffs which can be severe.
Neither does Sony make any camcorders in Europe....
Stu Holmes August 10th, 2006, 03:45 PM B & H has just listed the HV10 at $1499...
Its now listed as $1299 at B&H.
Donald White August 10th, 2006, 06:04 PM You should have been there this morning - $1499, bigger than life!!!
... and things get changed.
Ian Sturtivant August 11th, 2006, 07:16 AM It's disappeared off my German site now, which is odd.
I have an HDTV that autoswitches PAL/NTSC; an HD network Media Player that outputs NTSC/PAL, and of course an NLE can output either, so is there anything to stop me in the UK buying and using a US model from B&H and saving some cash?
EDIT: OK, I found out. I'll get flickering on indoor shots under lights. 50Hz:60Hz
Thomas Richter August 11th, 2006, 02:08 PM Plus you will usually have to pay a nasty little charge to customs (import tariffs + VAT).
On the topic of price difference, I think the anti dumping regulation may be a reason. Although it is stupid, there isn't really any European consumer cam producer to protect.
May the WTO succeed in bringing the evil video cam tariffs down ;-)
Ian Sturtivant August 11th, 2006, 02:14 PM I'd suggest a flight to NYC but at present it's maybe not a good idea. :o
Stu Holmes August 11th, 2006, 03:25 PM You should have been there this morning - $1499, bigger than life!!!
... and things get changed.thats very odd ! Either B&H made a mistake in their pricing or it WAS intended to be $1499 and then Canon or B&H decided that was too high?
Sharyn Ferrick August 11th, 2006, 04:16 PM The duty in to the UK for a camcorder that can record via inputs other than the lens, is 14% and then you have vat at 17.5%
Back in the days of no dv in on camcorders this stuff was a major topic of discussion, the duty was placed to protect the eu vcr industry ???
SHARYN
Ian Sturtivant August 11th, 2006, 05:53 PM Does it record, other than via the lens?
Sharyn Ferrick August 11th, 2006, 09:46 PM IF the eu version does have the analog in recording ability, then it would be classed as a vcr. BTW Sony does make some high end broadcast camerals in wales Some of the broadcast stuff is subject to 103percent duty, which is why Sony did it (THOMPSON was very effective in getting duty protectin for themselves )
http://www.information.wales.gov.uk/content/extrareports/396-email-e.htm
Sharyn
Ian Sturtivant August 12th, 2006, 06:04 PM In the UK we have an expression, "A load of old 80ll0cks." I feel this is aposite applied to the camcorder VCR duty situation.
Thompson, eh? A camcorder manufacturer of repute, I think not.
Magnus Andersen August 19th, 2006, 04:49 PM Hello All!
The HV10 is now listed on one swedish site at the price of 12795 SEK, that is about 1782 USD, hehe. That is including our lovely 25% Sales tax.
Here is the link http://www.scandinavianphoto.se/?31767
The HC3 is listed at 14995 SEK at that site which is quite high (can be found for around 12000 SEK at other swedish stores), so I am guessing that is the MSRP.
I can't wait to see some footage from that cam, hehe.
Best, Magnus.
Ian Sturtivant August 19th, 2006, 04:59 PM I'm not sure. Is Sweden in the EU?
Magnus Andersen August 19th, 2006, 07:20 PM Hello Ian!
Yes, Sweden is in the EU.
I also found some prices from Germany: http://www.pricerunner.de/unterhaltungselektronik/tv-und-video/camcorder/682367/prices?allcountries=1&sort=3&noidx=1
I checked but it doesn't seem to be listed yet on the UK version of Pricerunner.
Best, Magnus.
Ian Sturtivant August 20th, 2006, 03:57 AM Thanks Magnus.
Had a look at that German link. I think "Sofort lieferbar" has be to be a bit optimistic.
Thomas Richter August 20th, 2006, 05:07 AM I would love to take them for their "sofort lieferbar" promise ;-)
Ian Sturtivant August 20th, 2006, 05:10 AM That kind of place lets you order and then sends you an email telling you three or four weeks' delay. Good way to build up money in their bank account.
Ursula Badertscher August 29th, 2006, 02:44 AM Prices in Switzerland start as low as CHF 1580.00 with 7.6% sales tax included.
That would be about EUR 1013.00 or £ 684.00.
http://en.toppreise.ch/prod_98126.html?a=98126&o=pa
Ian Sturtivant August 29th, 2006, 04:55 AM I have checked a couple of those sites. One will only deliver to Switzerland, and the other thoughtfully adds Liechtenstein, which is nice.
Jim Martin August 29th, 2006, 10:44 AM Just to let everyone know, in the US, the list price is $1499 and the MAP is $1299.
Jim Martin
Stu Holmes August 29th, 2006, 11:45 AM Best UK price i have seen so far for HV10 is GBP999 (includes VAt or sales tax at unfortunate rate of 17.5%..):
http://www.videokit.co.uk/cgi-bin/store1/commerce.cgi?product=PRO_CAMCORDERS!CANON&pid=1999.htm
Ian Sturtivant August 29th, 2006, 01:58 PM £999, eh? Doncha just love that price point?
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