Hey everyone!

I really like the ideas behind the DVC and UWOL and kudos to everyone who is organizing those events. But I hate waiting for a new challenge to come out. This is why I think doing challenges for honour, glory, and just plain bragging rights would be fun. Actually doing hands on work is the best way to learn more about your craft and that is the idea that drives this.

We could set it up so that different people will suggest a different challenge, be it a theme, prop, phrase, ect that must be included in the film. We could do this as often as we want or as little as we want.

You have this to gain: fun, experience, and maybe some honour.

So who's interested? If you have suggestions or ideas for this please post them.

I'm in... I suggest having at least two components for our first challenge. A basic theme and something else. Maybe a phrase, word, or prop.

I would also suggest keeping the time limit fairly low. Maybe 4 minutes including opening titles and credits. That might allow us to practice creating some fancy openings... :)

What does everyone think?

Mike

Sounds good.

Get it flying!

Gunleik

awsome, lets start as soon as possible.




Are we gonna follow any rules?, If we followed Dogme rules, it would be something that would pose a bit of a challenge to everyone. It will make things a bit more interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95

Rules and basic concepts are good. Dogme can be one, even though it's more a production concept than anything else.

I think props and themes sound fun.

And veery short!

Gunleik

I'm going to say for the first one the time limit should be 3 minutes, excluding credits.

I'm going to say for the first one the time limit should be 3 minutes, excluding credits.
Cool, is there a set time for opening titles? Or does it matter? Or are opening titles included in the 3 minute limit?

Thanks,

Mike

Cool, is there a set time for opening titles? Or does it matter? Or are opening titles included in the 3 minute limit?

Thanks,

Mike

Opening titles are included in the 3 minutes.

So... are we going to get this going soon? :)

Suggest a timeframe and a subject

G

I would suggest a week to ten days... to finish.
I would also suggest that we have a minimum of 10 people signed up before we announce a theme.

Alex...?


Mike

I would suggest a week to ten days... to finish.
I would also suggest that we have a minimum of 10 people signed up before we announce a theme.

Alex...?


Mike

Agreed 10 people minimum. The first challenge will be a 10 day time frame.

Ok so if you want in on this one post a comment saying "i want in", post even if you have posted saying you're interested already it will be easier to track. Once we have 10 people I'll announce a theme to get us started. Then whoever wins this one will chose the criteria for the next one.

I like it...

I want in!

Mike

I want in

Gunleik

I want in

Gunleik

Gunleik, I just saw your demo reel. You're far too talented! ;)

Seriously though, nice work!

Thanks -;)

Bumping this to get more in

Gunleik

I'll be in, as long as the dates allow. If we do this some time in February or early March I'll be able to take part.

OK...
I considered my lack of talent, creativity and experiance...
Plus my low budget, single camera set up...
Combined with my fear of public ridicule....and....well...


I'm in!!

Bob T.

Quick count: Up @ seven

Let the challenge themes flow!

gunleik

I don't have any ideas or suggestions for you, Alex, but I need all the excuses I can get to go shoot something, so count me in!

don't worry folks, i'll get the ball rolling with the first challenge. the winner of this one choses the criteria for the next one.

Come on people! We only need a few more...

Of course, I'm going to have to borrow my sisters old camcorder again. :)

Okay, I'll take it on...

Awesome!

So, what are the rules concerning music and copyright issues? Since we're not planning on using this for any real distribution can we use any music that we want?

Or are we going to go by the DV Challenge rules?

I'm good either way...

Mike

Well, I don't know about you guys, but if I spend time making something such as this, I fully plan on submitting to festivals even after any kind of judgement is made on this forum. So, personally, I will be using an original score regardless of whatever is decided upon for our little contest. Many of you don't have the resources to make a quality score so my vote is to allow anything the film maker deems fit for their musical selection. You can only gain by having custom musical cues for your material, so I see no point in detracting from someone who just doesn't have the resources to make their own music!

If you're planning to use other people's music without their permission, then don't even *think* about posting here! DV Info Net always respects copyright.

Sounds fun. I'm in.

If you're planning to use other people's music without their permission, then don't even *think* about posting here! DV Info Net always respects copyright.
No problem, I just wasn't sure if it was allowed if we weren't going to profit from it in any way.

So... let's stick to original music, I don't have any problems with that.

Thanks,

Mike

Just got an idea.

What if we had a script (more than a concept, wow!!!) from a screenwriter.

It should be really short, but would give us leeway to focus on production.

It would be fun to see 10 different shorts from the same script!

Gunleik

Just got an idea.

What if we had a script (more than a concept, wow!!!) from a screenwriter.

It should be really short, but would give us leeway to focus on production.

It would be fun to see 10 different shorts from the same script!

Gunleik

i like that idea

Just got an idea.

What if we had a script (more than a concept, wow!!!) from a screenwriter.

It should be really short, but would give us leeway to focus on production.

It would be fun to see 10 different shorts from the same script!

Gunleik

i like that idea

Just got an idea.

What if we had a script (more than a concept, wow!!!) from a screenwriter.

It should be really short, but would give us leeway to focus on production.

It would be fun to see 10 different shorts from the same script!

Gunleik
This is a good idea.... BUT! What if I have no actors and the script calls for more than 1 person to be in the short?

It may really hurt those of us with limited resources.

You guys should consider the Project Greenlight format of a general script with vast openness for interpretation. Although, if you do, you should change the dialogue so it's different, just keeping the format.

I attached it here. Just an idea. Anyway, good luck.

Naw, I think that limiting creativity is a cop out. Film making is an art with many angles, and many people of varying talents to contribute. Why discriminate against one side over the other... I think that to stifle creative writing is creating a curve to the advantage of those with the best equipment and physical resources.

Clever writing can often allow someone to make the most of what they have, through utilizing mental resources. I, for one, feel that my writing sets me apart from other film makers, aside from my eye for the lens and attention to detail, it's part of what I bring to the table... conversely, you might as well say that we all have to abide to the same shot list or storyboards. Where's the fun in that? My vote is for 100% original work.

good points, Nick. after posting it, i stopped liking the idea as well.

Anyone else?

Come on guys... sign up! :)

Maybe we can aim to post the theme on Friday...

Alex?

So as it stands we have:

Mike Horrigan
Gunleik Groven
Nick Harris
Bob Thieda
Robert Martens
Chris Barcellos
Marlon Torres

Jeff are you interested in joining?

Since we're having trouble getting 10 people I'm going to say I'll announce the criteria for everything friday. So far keep these things in mind:

-films will be 3 minutes, not including end credits
-music must either be original or you have permission to use it
-this is about fun!

So tell your friends to come join in the fun.

-films will be 3 minutes, not including end credits
-music must either be original or you have permission to use it
-this is about fun!

So tell your friends to come join in the fun.

Sounds good! Alex, you're submitting as well right? You didn't put your name on the list...

Mike

I'm starting to get nervous....

(First ever video challenge)

Bob

i can't this time. bad timing. but i'll be interested in watching what you guys come up with.

Sounds good! Alex, you're submitting as well right? You didn't put your name on the list...

Mike

I was thinking about this the other day. I'm debating on wether or not the person who issues the criteria for the challenge should sit that one out. They are just for fun and learning, but at the same time the person who gives out the challenge has prior knowledge to what it will be. I'm not saying that people will try to cheat, I just don't think it's as fun when you don't have that sense of going into the unknown and coming out with a film a week (or more, or less) later.

What do you guys think?

Alex, I think you should be a part of it. Maybe we can have someone who can't be a part of it (like Jeff) come up with the theme.

It's all in good fun, and the more submissions we have... the better.

What do you say Jeff?

Mike

Just do it Alex.....

Go for it A!

G

Do you think we would get more entries if we didn't start until the UWOL Challenge #1 ends on the 22nd?

Just a thought....

I'm anxious to start, but if it means more entrants, I could wait....

Bob

Do you think we would get more entries if we didn't start until the UWOL Challenge #1 ends on the 22nd?

Just a thought....

I'm anxious to start, but if it means more entrants, I could wait....

Bob

True, but a bunch of them have already finished and uploaded their films.
They could always jump in here...

I say we go for it!

(I'm just sick of waiting... ) ;)

Posted in the wrong thread...

Hey guys, I was really looking forward to participating in this, but I just don't have the time until after the 26th of January. I'm in the middle of a pre production proposal package for a producer and that's taking up every moment of my free time until the meeting date! So, if we can't push it until after then, I gotta sit this one out, sorry.

-Nick

i'd be happy to be the objective person to come up with a theme for you guys. just let me know if you want me to, and when to post it.

i'd be happy to be the objective person to come up with a theme for you guys. just let me know if you want me to, and when to post it.
If Alex is in agreement then I think that's a great idea. That way Alex won't feel like he's "cheating" and he'll also submit something. The more the merrier...

If everything is cool with him... I say you post the theme on Friday!

I would also allow others to join in up to Monday. That gives a few stragglers the opportunity to catch this over the weekend.

Sound good?