View Full Version : That 24p camera setting


Ben Winter
February 18th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Well, just wanted to demonstrate that the 24p mode on your camera does, in fact, make your footage look soo much better. Total proof:

http://www.frozenphoenixproductions.com/24plook.mov

Chris Harris
February 18th, 2007, 10:49 PM
The 24p portion is too short! You should have done the same shot with and without 24p.

Ben Winter
February 19th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Chris, I hope you found the humor in it... :)

Jeff Gray
February 19th, 2007, 09:20 PM
Nice job Ben! It's amazing how much difference a single setting on a camera can make... ; )

Boyd Ostroff
February 19th, 2007, 09:31 PM
Very funny - nice job!

Benjamin Richardson
March 6th, 2007, 11:48 PM
oh is that all you have to do, switch it to 24p...? :)

Marcus Marchesseault
March 7th, 2007, 09:51 PM
When you switched to 24p, it looked a little dark. Did you make sure that the shutter speed didn't also change? Shutter speed can make a significant difference with the film look.

Geoff Murrin
March 16th, 2007, 09:27 AM
Maybe i could hack my palm treo to have 24P :)

Alan James
March 18th, 2007, 05:01 AM
Thats what I tell my mom when she comes over to look at my messy dorm. "Are you sure your not looking at it in 60i mode?"

She never understands.

Chris Harris
March 18th, 2007, 10:01 AM
Chris, I hope you found the humor in it... :)

Oh my, it went right over my head until I watched it again! Very nice work! :)

Jon Wolding
March 19th, 2007, 08:52 AM
That's pretty funny, Ben.

Mike Horrigan
March 19th, 2007, 12:20 PM
LOL!


That was great! Looks MUCH better. ;)


Mike

Stephen A. Dolphin
March 27th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Ben, what editing software did you use? Very funny clip...nice work!!!
What was your export settings for Quicktime you used, it was extreamly clean.

Thanks,
Stephen
Canon XL2

Ben Winter
March 27th, 2007, 07:23 PM
Ben, what editing software did you use? Very funny clip...nice work!!!
What was your export settings for Quicktime you used, it was extreamly clean.

Thanks,
Stephen
Canon XL2

Thanks :) I use Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 to edit, and Sorenson Squeeze with the 1mbps quicktime .mov preset. Sorenson can produce some very nice results.

Stephen A. Dolphin
March 27th, 2007, 07:44 PM
Do you have any problems capturing 60i footage with PP2.0? I shot some footage in Maryland last week and in Adobe PP I don't see a preset for 60i footage, I see presets for 24p and 30p, but none for 60i. What is the work around for this?

Alan James
March 27th, 2007, 09:12 PM
60i 30p and 24p are all stored the same way on the tape. "i" means half frame, so when you shoot at 60i you are shooting 60 half frames with equals 30 full frames. Its more complex then that but thats the just of it. To edit 60i use a 30p sequence and just export with "lower field first".

And you shouldn't double post a question, try to keep it in one area.

If anyone is intrested Stephen also asked this question here.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=90090

If you want help on this subject you should ask there.

Ben Winter
March 27th, 2007, 09:16 PM
Do you have any problems capturing 60i footage with PP2.0? I shot some footage in Maryland last week and in Adobe PP I don't see a preset for 60i footage, I see presets for 24p and 30p, but none for 60i. What is the work around for this?

Maryland doesn't allow 60i capture of footage. They put a ban on that a few months ago. I have a special license, you have to go through the right channels. Go to your nearest sheriff's office, ask for the AE05F form on 60i Capture. They'll help you out.

Marcus Marchesseault
March 27th, 2007, 10:18 PM
I can't wait till I can start shooting 24p so I can sell my lighting gear and filters. I'm also getting so tired of doing color correction and choosing the best camera angles that 24p will make so much easier.

Frank Howard
May 29th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Wow! I didn't know that 24p will even pour you a glass of scotch!

Wynn Bradford
June 7th, 2007, 08:50 PM
I use the Sony 60i setting and it works great. It was the only thing I could find and it seems its the same as Canon.


Wynn Bradford

Terry Lee
June 26th, 2007, 07:29 PM
Was that shot with the FX1?

Ben Winter
June 28th, 2007, 02:03 PM
Yes. First part is native 60i and the second is 60i converted to 24p with DvFilm maker.

Marcus Marchesseault
June 30th, 2007, 12:07 AM
OMG! You are still using a camera that doesn't have native 24P? No wonder all your stuff looks like crap. If anyone disagrees with me that Ben's lack of native 24P isn't a problem, go to his site and download some of his work. I think it's been well established amongst those aspiring to be the next Quentin Tarentino that 24p is THE difference between the Film Look and crappy home video.

Maybe we should start a pool to help get Ben a DVX100?

Ben Winter
June 30th, 2007, 06:13 PM
Haha, thanks Marcus. Any chance we can change that pool to one for an HVX? Cause, you know, now that it's out, HD is THE difference between Film Look and crappy home video :)

Marcus Marchesseault
June 30th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Nope. Sorry. 24P is all that matters. It's pretty much decided that you need to focus all movie-making efforts on 24P for the look and the screenplay should be a bunch of people standing around wearing sunglasses and posturing menacingly before they all shoot each other. If you can achieve 24P and lots of gunplay with no defined purpose other than to show all your characters lying on the floor covered in blood; you are a true independent filmmaker. Don't forget to budget for a film transfer.