FX1, A1 and HVX Playing together.

Not to compare what is better, but to show how they can be used together.

Not the best compression, but you can get the idea.

In the you tube player on the extreme bottom right click the left button to play at normal size.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8On737AFg

NEW LINK http://www.mediafire.com/?fzyyz0exhzy

Douglas, the compression is so heavy that I might as well be watching video 8 footage....really hard to see what's going on.

Sorry :(

I think Steven is just looking at it from too technical a standpoint. From a general audience perspective the video seems to work very well together, its all in the use of the tools. Maybe its because I am of the 'younger generation' and youtube doesn`t bother me, sometimes video is video. The right tools in the right hands and you`d never be the wiser.

I agree with Steven. Using Youtube for ANY quality comparison is nothing short of useless.

Bill

Douglas, the compression is so heavy that I might as well be watching video 8 footage....really hard to see what's going on.

Sorry :(

I agree with you on Youtube, but I can't just pay my web guy every time I have something to show.

I think Steven is just looking at it from too technical a standpoint. From a general audience perspective the video seems to work very well together, its all in the use of the tools. Maybe its because I am of the 'younger generation' and youtube doesn`t bother me, sometimes video is video. The right tools in the right hands and you`d never be the wiser.
Like I said before it is not a comparison between cameras. It is to show that they work good together and that is easy to see even on youtube.

I agree with Steven. Using Youtube for ANY quality comparison is nothing short of useless.

Bill

It is not a comparison.

I mean you no disrespect at all Douglas but my problem is that you could have shot these scenes with a Super8 camera, a PD150 and a Varicam and they would still all look really badly compressed and there would be no real way of seeing how they all work together.

Do you understand what I'm getting at? I'm not looking at it from a technical standpoint so much. I just want to see something a little clearer.

I also understand the restrictions of uploading large files but there are a few free services out there.

I mean you no disrespect at all Douglas but my problem is that you could have shot these scenes with a Super8 camera, a PD150 and a Varicam and they would still all look really badly compressed and there would be no real way of seeing how they all work together.

Do you understand what I'm getting at? I'm not looking at it from a technical standpoint so much. I just want to see something a little clearer.

I also understand the restrictions of uploading large files but there are a few free services out there.
I don't take anything said here as personal.

Send me a link to a free site that can handle large h264 files and I'll upload it.
I use to do it through my own page but I had it upgraded to Flash or something and now I don't know how to download from it. I have 3 GBs available but no time to figure out how.

Douglas, Mediafire.com works well. 100 meg max per file & you don't have to register, but it's free regardless & registering gives you management of files uploaded or downloaded.

Bill

Thanks Bill.

I'll post some footage as soon as I encode some h264 files. They take forever to encode.

Yep you got to it before me. Mediafire is the best route.

Try this link 25.5 MBs http://www.mediafire.com/?fzyyz0exhzy

Shots look really nice... Looks like a classy place.... What kind of jib was that you were using?

Might try rendering out to a good old SD MPEG-2... Should yield some better results for viewing pleasure and ease compression issues...

Shots look really nice... Looks like a classy place.... What kind of jib was that you were using?

Might try rendering out to a good old SD MPEG-2... Should yield some better results for viewing pleasure and ease compression issues...

Thanks Doug,

I use a use a ProMax Cobra Crane II with extention,

I thought about doing an MPEG-II but it takes time to convert HD format to SD.

still looks like they work well together. Even with better vs. youtube compression. Again, had you not mentioned the 3 cameras I don`t think people would have known. Good work.

Thanks Nathan

A camera is just a tool.

What I didn't mention before is that the HVX was set for 720p24 and the A1 and FX1 at 1080i30.

The A1 I had just bought and was factory set and WB was 3200k with auto iris and focus.
The FX1 was the operator's and also factory set.

All matching is being done in post.

Wow, the camera's do work well together. Thanks for the footage. Gives me a better feeling about matching up the A1 with other cameras.

Did you do the editing on this piece as well?

the hand held one seems to have the highest clarity and details, what camera is that? The one on the ground with wide shot seems the colour is abit muted and the top shot has abit of oversaturation. I love the handheld one.
ys

Wow, the camera's do work well together. Thanks for the footage. Gives me a better feeling about matching up the A1 with other cameras.

Did you do the editing on this piece as well?
Yes I am working on the editing. They didn't looked that way on the raw footage.

the hand held one seems to have the highest clarity and details, what camera is that? The one on the ground with wide shot seems the colour is abit muted and the top shot has abit of oversaturation. I love the handheld one.
ys
Good eye for detail Yow.

Cameras:
A1 on Cobra Crane (1080i/30f, factory settings on auto focus and iris)(Knowing what I know now, next time I would set focus manually to about 15' and I already have it setup with Steven's VIVIDRGB)
FX1 center on tripod (same as above. I think that the lens was dirty)(On editing I had to use 2 3way CC filters to get the saturation to what you see with FCP5)
HVX on GlideCam Smooth Shooter (720/24p to FS-100 HDD recorder 1/48, Color gain to +3, manual focus at 10ft aperture at f2.8) No CC on editing.

Capture the HDV cameras with Decklink Extreme HD card with DVCPROHD 1080./60 codec through HV20 Component out.
The HVX files from the FS-100 were transfer to the HDD RAID and laid over the multiclip of the HDV cameras. Blown up to 150% to match 1080 and rendered together.

IMHO-The HVX has more natural colors so to match the reds I have over saturate the other two. I think that the extra resolution comes from recording DVCPROHD 4:2:2