I have been bursting at the seems to make this declaration, so I am making it now. I am absolutely IN LOVE with Vegas Video. I haven't played with every operating system under the sun, but I just love Vegas's simplicity, as well as it's alignment functions. I am completing my second feature film with Vegas Video and it has been nothing but a pure joy ride. I hope this NLE never dies, because it has become like a tight fitting glove to me, it is spectacular.

I have tried Premiere Elements 3, Avid Free, Ulead 10 Plus, TMPGen, and a bunch of free but well-known combinations/solutions including Virtualdub and AVISynth. Then I found out the powerful Vegas Platinum 8 that I can buy with under $100, including the DVD Architect 4.5. I have tried it and even though the trial period is not ended yet I already order a full package from Fry's just few days ago. Besides tons of cool features, Vegas supports Unicode so I could create some family DVD in my native (Vietnamese) language!
I don't know which Vegas you're talking about but I guess if it's a pro version then I absolutely understand.
Which is/are its features that you like the most?

Vegas Movie Studio Platinum is the little brother to the full version of Vegas. The full version does add many nice additions over the Movie Studio version. Some of these are:

1. Unlimited Video and Audio Tracks
2. Customizable render settings ("Custom" is disabled on some formats in VMS)
3. Scripting - scripts are a powerful timesaver
4. Customizable screen layouts
5. Project nesting
6. Envelope "painting" and automation

FYI, BH Photo has the full version of Vegas 6 for $99 at http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/434966-REG/Sony_SV6000DVD_Vegas_6_Video_Editing.html or for $249 you can get to Vegas 7 + DVD at http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/462195-REG/Sony__Vegas7_0_DVD_Editing_Software_for.html


Duane

I have tried Premiere Elements 3, Avid Free, Ulead 10 Plus, TMPGen, and a bunch of free but well-known combinations/solutions including Virtualdub and AVISynth. Then I found out the powerful Vegas Platinum 8 that I can buy with under $100, including the DVD Architect 4.5. I have tried it and even though the trial period is not ended yet I already order a full package from Fry's just few days ago. Besides tons of cool features, Vegas supports Unicode so I could create some family DVD in my native (Vietnamese) language!
I don't know which Vegas you're talking about but I guess if it's a pro version then I absolutely understand.
Which is/are its features that you like the most?

I have 7.0, and I like the snapping feature, the ease of the layout and the fact that it doesn't eat up a lot of hardware requirements.

FYI, BH Photo has the full version of Vegas 6 for $99 at http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/434966-REG/Sony_SV6000DVD_Vegas_6_Video_Editing.html or for $249 you can get to Vegas 7 + DVD at http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/462195-REG/Sony__Vegas7_0_DVD_Editing_Software_for.html


Duane

I will get the Vegas 7+DVD after my Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum "elementary school" !

I will get the Vegas 7+DVD after my Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum "elementary school" !

I trust you're aware of the upgrade path (https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/shopping/item.asp?PID=417&cid=111&disp=1) from Movie Studio to Vegas 7 + DVD.
And assuming Vegas 8 comes out this fall, there's usually a one month window with even better upgrade pricing :-)

I trust you're aware of the upgrade path (https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/shopping/item.asp?PID=417&cid=111&disp=1) from Movie Studio to Vegas 7 + DVD.
And assuming Vegas 8 comes out this fall, there's usually a one month window with even better upgrade pricing :-)
Thanks for pointing that out.
Yeah I will take advantage of the upgrade benefit for sure. But for now, I will stick with V.Platinum try to learn some rudimentary video stuff and such. You know I'm a real noob and I have very limited time - but I like these movie stuffs!
Cheers!

Vegas is one nifty little tool. But if you're looking into breaking into the professional editing industry you have to leave it behind. Can't shake the feeling that everything done in Vegas (when done using any effect/title/.... tool, apart from editing) still has an amateur-industry feel to it. The 'industry' NLEs often offer no more than mere cutting and then spend out the footage (sound mix, correction, titling, 3D) to a third-party application. An application designed only for that purpose thus offering the best in their field. Using only Vegas you can never come close to the sounddesign in ProTools or Soundtrack Pro (you cAn go to Soundforge however), you can never get the same titling/correction/effects results as in Motion, Color, Livetype, After effects.

What I found unique about Sony's software however that it's the only NLE application that offers a decent control level in every one of these fields. Thus making it the perfect deal for many like us. I've chosen Vegas as my favorite application since about one-two years now, but next year I'm off to my second year in editing education and will have to leave Sony behind.

So yes, I love Vegas too; but AVID and Final Cut Pro are the only industry standards offering the tools for the best possible quality there is. No compatibility with Mac doesn't do Sony any good as well.

Merlin hit on alot of valid points, its true that if your breaking into the industry it will be some time yet before your taken seriously when you mention that you edit on Sony Vegas. However i believe that if you are an independent breaking into the industry then it wont really matter what you edit on as long as you can deliver the product, but even then there are a few hold backs that are often overlooked when fans like myself are talking about sony vegas and these 'issues' really need to be addressed in vegas 8.

First of all alot of the features vegas are lacking are only really important if your doing high end work, for example, vegas doesn’t support 10bit processing which is a huge problem for people who are used to working with digibeta in final cut pro or even Premiere. Another HUGE HUGE HUGE problem I’ve had in vegas is the inability to do frame precise edits, now this is a big deal to me seeing as i do a lot of music videos and often have to cut to a beat, there’s been many times where I’ve had to scrap ideas due to the fact i couldn’t cut my video at a precise frame.

There’s other minor things like the lack of a preview window (trimmer doesn’t cut it for me, excuse the pun), the dodgy EDL, the general samey dull grey look to the whole program from version to version (is it too hard for a stylish black or something?). I'm sounding like i dislike the program here but the truth is I love it, hence me posting to this thread and being so affected by where its lacking, however whether i love it enough to stick to it has been the real question. I have now moved over to final cut and regrettably i like it more than vegas for a number of reasons HOWEVER its the hardest thing in the world trying to get used to the difference in speed between final cut and vegas. in 10 minutes of using final cut i could have achieved the same results from vegas in about 1-2 minutes for general things. Anyway i shall stop here before this turns into a whole other thread. Basically Vegas is great, if volume 8 can deliver in the lacking areas then i may set fire to my mac g5 and return to my beloved pc but if i don’t see any 10 bit processing and frame accurate editing sony vegas will be saying goodbye yet again to what was once a very VERY loyal user.

VThe 'industry' NLEs often offer no more than mere cutting and then spend out the footage (sound mix, correction, titling, 3D) to a third-party application. An application designed only for that purpose thus offering the best in their field. Using only Vegas you can never come close to the sounddesign in ProTools or Soundtrack Pro

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That's why films such as "The Last Samurai" etc have many areas scored, sound designed, etc with Vegas exclusively. It's why high end producers such as Dean Devlin (Who Killed the Electric Car, Stargate, and many other films) uses Vegas for a national television show. Steve Oedekerk's staff uses Vegas on a regular basis for his television pieces.
I've personally received Emmy's and Grammy's from work exclusively done in Vegas.
You're limited in Vegas by your own imagination, nothing more.
It's rare I'll belittle someone in these forums, but to suggest you can do more in ProTools than Vegas is silly,and to compare Vegas to Soundtrack is beyond ridiculous. BTW, I wrote the original Soundtrack books for CMP and Focal. I've written several Vegas books. I'm an FCP trainer. I was one of the first-ever artists recorded with ProTools when Windham Hill was funding Doug.
In other words, I'm very familiar with these tools. And have been quite successful with them.

Can't do frame precise edits? Huh?

Daniel - obviously some will find some things easier to do in one program than another, but I am mystified as to why you can't do frame accurate edits in Vegas. Do you have Quantize to Frames enabled?

I'm at an age where, not even 10 years ago, I should never ever had even contemplated entering this world of video and sound capture and edit.

But 5 years ago I did.

I've since created video works that have allowed a London Organisation to apply and win a National Competition; I have videoed, edited and delivered work that has been shown at the British Library; I have written and produced "specialist" reviews on video and audio equipment from this User's perspective and ONLY using the s/w under debate here and I have demonstrated the ease with which Vegas works to likes of "hardened" techies of the BBC.

And I still don't, and will never reach the dizzy heights spoken about here. But I have made in-roads to the industry at a time and at a space in my life that I'm fundamentally grateful. For those that DO know me, they know I don't say this lightly nor flippantly.

Breaking into the "Edit Industry", I do see your point. But maybe, just maybe there is "another/other" industry/industries out there for somebody LIKE me that I can make head-way in.

Oh, yesterday I was negotiating with a band to do a promo for them. I was speaking about audio and storyboards and "look" and the need to design an audio framework and . . so on and so on . . None, none of this I would be doing if it wasn't for the suite of software that Sony has under its wing now.

Now, you may read this and say,"Grazie, you just made my pioint for me!" - well, what I've achieved may not be what you are debating, apologies, but what I wont apologise for is that I AM proud of where and what I have done. And I guess, if you were to go about today you will also find many others doing the same too.

Best regards,

Grazie

That's why films such as "The Last Samurai" etc have many areas scored, sound designed, etc with Vegas exclusively. It's why high end producers such as Dean Devlin (Who Killed the Electric Car, Stargate, and many other films) uses Vegas for a national television show. Steve Oedekerk's staff uses Vegas on a regular basis for his television pieces.
I've personally received Emmy's and Grammy's from work exclusively done in Vegas.
You're limited in Vegas by your own imagination, nothing more.
It's rare I'll belittle someone in these forums, but to suggest you can do more in ProTools than Vegas is silly,and to compare Vegas to Soundtrack is beyond ridiculous. BTW, I wrote the original Soundtrack books for CMP and Focal. I've written several Vegas books. I'm an FCP trainer. I was one of the first-ever artists recorded with ProTools when Windham Hill was funding Doug.
In other words, I'm very familiar with these tools. And have been quite successful with them.

First things: I love Vegas too and I prefer lots of its capabilties over AVID or FCP any time. I live in Belgium and don't even know half the people or shows you mentioned (part from the movie). All I know is when I presented my first year's project and was asked which software I had used for editing (Vegas) the jury gave me that grim look and told me I better start working on FCP or AVID starting next year. I can't believe that teachers/industry professionals like them tell me that for no reason. Here in Belgium Vegas is a myth. And please don't lecture me with your degree titles; I get the picture: you're a seasoned professional and I'm a second degree student newbie. Sorry but I felt a little personally assaulted there.

You've made most of my point, Merlin.
Seasoned professionals use Vegas. A judge/jury, whatever...obviously isn't made up of seasoned professionals, or they'd be smart enough to know that your work is judged on it's content, not on what was used to make it. Does anyone care what brand of paint Raphael used? Or what grade of sand Chihully uses? Or what kind of chisel Michaelangelo used?
Long, long after the edit is done, the work stands on its own. If you're judged by the tool you use, then you're judged by idiots.
Knowing how to use ProTools, knowing how to use FCP, knowing how to operate an Avid system can be important if you'll be working in the corporate world with other editors simply for reasons of consistency. But that too, is changing. For example, I've spent many weeks training at some of the largest broadcast houses, teaching their editing staff to use Vegas. All of them used to be Avid Newscutter exclusive.
BTW, Emmy's/Grammy's aren't "titles," but rather industry awards, voted on by peer members of the industry.
If you feel insulted, my apologies. On the other hand, it might be a good idea for you to be a bit more informed before making comparisons between Vegas and other software. Your post and Daniel's post both demonstrate a pretty significant ignorance when it comes to using the product, yet you're both making absolutist statements about what can and can't be done with the software. When in fact, the very things you both suggest can't be done, are done every day.

No worries, my use of Vegas did not stand in the way of getting me an A for that project (and I don't mean to brag). So luckily I won't be taught by idiots that only look at applications rather than content. However still; the grim look and the fact that the editor students in our class will work exclusively with FCP or Avid starting next year looks to me as if Vegas has a certain 'co-notation' of not being an 'industry standard' yet. Then again if I had made the cut of my footage using Windows Movie Maker I still would've gotten the same grades. A cut is a cut by any means. And you are right pointing out just that.

In fact I think our angers are quite alike: I too feel dazed when my collegue students pledge an allegiance to FCP only. Definitely when I saw a job application asking editors with Adobe Premiere experience that very same day. Just to clear this out: I am a (happy) Vegas user too. All I wanted to tell is that in my environment I feel a certain degradation concerning Sony's software practically forcing me to step over (for studying reasons only :p) to the others. And I was merely suggesting a couple of possible reasons of why that is. In fact they should've been asked as questions: do the others offer a better workflow in audio? Are they better at color correcting?

I've seen the same where jobs ask for editors with Vegas experience. It can go all ways.

...All I know is when I presented my first year's project and was asked which software I had used for editing (Vegas) the jury gave me that grim look and told me I better start working on FCP or AVID starting next year...
As an educator (as well as a 25-yr. industry pro), I can sympathize with the jury. I've been a Vegas user since it was an audio-only app, but also have to admit that if you were preparing for employment in my town, getting a good grounding in FCP and/or AVID would open up more job opportunities. Spot is right that such a jury should understand what Vegas enables as well.

Here in Portland, Oregon, we are sort of indie-central, with a solid base of corporate work as well. A medium-size broadcast market. FCP rules the non-broadcast roost.

Not that I think that is so good - my preferred editor is Vegas, by far! But if you want to work around the industry in Portland, be a power-user of FCP. I don't hire out as an editor, and use Vegas almost all of the time, except for those few projects where I'm working with another production company's editor.

Having said all that, learning to cut story is the important thing. How fast and easy you can do it is also an important job skill. Vegas is very good for me because I can be *very* productive with it, and mostly work on my own.

No worries, my use of Vegas did not stand in the way of getting me an A for that project (and I don't mean to brag). So luckily I won't be taught by idiots that only look at applications rather than content. However still; the grim look and the fact that the editor students in our class will work exclusively with FCP or Avid starting next year looks to me as if Vegas has a certain 'co-notation' of not being an 'industry standard' yet. Then again if I had made the cut of my footage using Windows Movie Maker I still would've gotten the same grades. A cut is a cut by any means. And you are right pointing out just that.

In fact I think our angers are quite alike: I too feel dazed when my collegue students pledge an allegiance to FCP only. Definitely when I saw a job application asking editors with Adobe Premiere experience that very same day. Just to clear this out: I am a (happy) Vegas user too. All I wanted to tell is that in my environment I feel a certain degradation concerning Sony's software practically forcing me to step over (for studying reasons only :p) to the others. And I was merely suggesting a couple of possible reasons of why that is. In fact they should've been asked as questions: do the others offer a better workflow in audio? Are they better at color correcting?

Frankly, and I don't mean this to be insulting in anyway, the population of the entire country of Belgium is about on par or even slightly less than LA and the surrounding communitites. I hardly think that whatever a few teachers over there say should be taken too seriously.

Arguments like this remind me of the MAC vs PC war's of years ago that fortunately don't seem to be to prevelant now. The facts of the matter are that Vegas is a professional quality product, nobody here has said otherwise. It is also fact that Apple and AVid also produce great products as well. Apple wouldn't be around today if it hadn't done such a good job over the years in their marketing department (It's no wonder their hardware/software costs so much more than their competition). They've always done a great job making huge inroads into schools, so if ANY school is telling you that Final Cut is the "industry standard" PLEASE take that with a grain of salt.

I can't speak exclusively for "the industry" but what I can say is that I know people have a very strong tendency to jump into a camp of comfort and defend their choices vehemently. If you disagree, just think politics... With that said, you are going to have a large group of people saying the FCP are the only way to go and others with Premiere, some with Vegas, AVID, whatever..

I can't stress enough what Douglas mentioned above which is that, in the end, content is all that matters and the form of delivery is merely a small means to the end. I think we hope that the tools we use can make up for the lack of ability and talent we have, therefore we make such a big deal about our tools.

Just my two cents...

Jon

It seems that for RIGHT NOW, if you're a production company/one-man operation who can finalize your work in house, you can use Vegas or whatever else you want, but if you want to work for someone else as an editor in the film/tv/production company environments, you need to have Avid/FCP experience. Every once in a while, I see an ad that mentions Premiere, but I think right now FCP and Avid are the industry standards. Maybe things'll change someday.

The more you CAN do, the more you WILL do.

Use what works for you, and develop the 'eye' necessary for being a great editor. Learn the tools you need to get a job in the area you need to get it in. (Might sound silly, but it makes sense.)

FWIW, I just checked Mandy.com for FULLY PAID post production jobs across the US. An 'unscientific' quick thumbnail snapshot of what it looks like RIGHT now.

26 Job postings looking for FCP editors

18 Job postings looking for AVID editors

5 Postings looking for Editors with BOTH Avid/FCP experience

1 Posting for FCP and Premiere experience

19 postings for 'other' sucha as Shake, Maya, After Effects, ProTools, Photoshop or the unspecified "Professional editor needed" category.


So doing the math, if you have experience in BOTH FCP and Avid, there are a total of 50 jobs open to you.

By the way, Vegas does do frame accurate edits. I wouldn't use it if it couldn't.

My latest project would be an abosolute pain in the but with FCP. I have 16 HDV tapes and to use FCP and it's intermediate codec would take gobs more hard disc space rather than the little $129 500 gig WD MyBook that I'm using.

I have been working with an FCP guy lately on a bunch of real estate virtual tour projects. When working in FCP, he insisted we capture with the SD downconvert because "it would take too long to render all the transitions in HD". I don't know how accurate this is, but I do know that I always work in HD on my older P4 laptop which is a fraction as powerful as his top of the Macbook Pro and I don't really find it any more cumbersome than working with SD downconverts.

As far as audio goes, I can't imagine having to export and import into ProTools. It is so much easier to just work in Vegas. I routinely use Sound Forge for fine edits of individual tracks and I have quite a few audio plugins which all work beautifully in either Sound Forge or Vegas. To me, going to Premier or FCP would be a huge step backwards.

Since I do documentary style production, I end up taking video from quite a wide variety of sources. Vegas is by far the best editor at handling multiple formats within a single project.

I use photo animations with pans and zooms quite a bit as well. Vegas is better here as well.

I use Vegas's scripting options all the time. Scripts like Ultimate S allow Vegas to do things incredibly quickly that would take ages on any other platform.

Vegas's titling capabilties are a bit lacking, but once I added Heroglyph, I found that I could make text dance around as well as anyone.

As far as the 8bit limitation goes, yeah, I wish Vegas could do ten bits. Not that it would make much difference to me right now. I am using HDV which is an 8 bit format, so it wouldn't buy me much. I do documentary style stuff so I don't do the sort of heavy color correction where working with a higher bit depth than my source material would make much of a difference, but, yeah it would be useful for those who do.

I wouldn't be going on like this except that I hate for anyone casually browsing the forum to get the idea that Vegas was limited compared to other editing platforms when that really isn't the case.

The simple fact is that if you want to make money as an editor here in Europe you need to learn AVID and/or FCP.

AVID and FCP are the industry standard here.

If you are a Vegas editor you will not make much money in Europe

As I see it, Vegas has a certain niche that it fills really well: that is the small independant project. For someone like me working by myself, it is just "the bomb". I can do everything that is usually done by a bunch of people in different suites by myself and I can do it quite well.

I like working on small projects. I like being a camera guy, an interviewer, an editor, a musician, writing and recording voice overs, etc. The idea of being an editor working in a room with no windows endlessly on comercials for things like fragrances and automobiles leaves me cold. I can see where Vegas wouldn't be the best thing for somebody working in a regular commercial environment where they cut a video and send it off to another room for audio sweetening for instance. For me though, I really need the all-in-one approach.

As a Vegas user it is easy for me to see why people on the list that Spot referenced would all use Vegas. For anyone who wears many hats in a production, Vegas is by far the easiest way to tie everything together and get it all done quickly easily, at high quality, and in a way that is (most of all) actually fun.

The guys in the big post production houses use some of the best equipment and software in the world and yet they work on some of the most boring content imaginable. I don't at all feel that I need to use the same tools that they use and I wouldn't change places with them for anything.

I am about to make a bold statement:

Vegas will be the industry standard within 10 years.

They just need to a 10bit support and decent integrated titled and effects packages, and maybe a paint box, and you have by far the best all round package.

I have this sneaky feeling that most of the prejudice against Vegas is because it is a PC product, and it is also a Sony product. It's the only camera maker who have their own editing platform. And it is simply the best for performance, work flow and flexibility.

Rob,

It also has a somewhat silly name and most pros have never touched it, in my experience. Plus I've heard the GUI described as "Fisher Price". Apparently the key to winning hearts and minds is overly slick graphics and tiny tiny fonts that no human can read (looking at you FCP). :-)

I have this sneaky feeling that most of the prejudice against Vegas is because it is a PC product, and it is also a Sony product. It's the only camera maker who have their own editing platform. And it is simply the best for performance, work flow and flexibility.

Rob,

Grass Valley (Thomson) have cameras and good NLE - Edius.

Grass Valley (Thomson) have cameras and good NLE - Edius.

Grass Valley only acquired Edius a year ago, so I'm not sure I'd count that in the mix. Prior to one year ago, Sony is the only company with an end-to-end solution for the video production company/individual/broadcaster. Given that the Infinity is still not shipping, Sony still is the only ENG/EFP provider with an end-to-end solution.
This does tend to lead to a fair amount of prejudice.

Another thing I've just discovered they could do with adding (if it is not in version 7, I'm still on 6) is some more clocks like VITC and LTC that sit in the vertical blanks for broadcast on the BBC. In fact an opening clock generator and presets for BBC compatibility would be most welcome.

I had to brow beat my editor/director into using it, but when he got a hang of it, he realise how much better it was in terms of workflow, performance and reliability than any other platform. To a video editor the setup may not immediately make sense, but to someone like me who has had a background in audio applications such as Cubase and Cakewalk, it makes perfect sense.

I guess those who referred to Vegas as Fisher Price were doing the same to FCP when they moved from hours of developing and cutting film in labs. The more the tools move into the hands of the average person the better if you ask me. Even now, if you have the storage, it is perfectly feasible to edit a full 4k cinema grade movie in Vegas on a machine bought for under £500, by using the incredibly useful "replace" feature to edit dv reductions.

Its a powerhouse.

p.s. Is Grass Valley a descendant of GVP (Grass Valley Products) who used to produce mainly Amiga peripherals and I think a few PC clones? I thought they had gone bust, but i wondered if the name got picked up by somebody else...

I am absolutely IN LOVE with Vegas Video.


Yes, I agree, it is simply amazing!

We did a 5 second bumper in full HD 1080 uncompressed with a 5.1 soundtrack.

We received the 5 x 25 = 125 uncompressed TIFF's from animator. Imported as sequence to vegas. Exported lowres Quicktime for the 5.1 sound producers. Received broadcast wave from them. Imported broadcast wave file onto five tracks in vegas. Exported separate audio for each channel with uncompressed 5 second HD 1080 AVI sequence onto external hard drive. Courier to the cinemas "intake" post facilities. Project checked in ok.

Vegas did not crash once through this project.
Amazing stuff.

Josh Wrote:

"It also has a somewhat silly name ..."

The name turned me off the first time I heard it, too.

Then I learned its a perfect acronym for "Video, Editing, Graphics and Sound"...

...which is accurate AND descriptive!

The first time I tried it, I was instantly hooked.

BMW

Josh Wrote:

"Video, Editing, Graphics and Sound"...

BMW

Nice. Sell these words to Sony;)

i've been working with a editor for the past 3 weeks that uses FCP 6 ( studio 2 ) on one of my projects .... i have to say i was a little thrown back - at NAB i remember hearing drop anything in the FCP 6 TL and it will play it back - what they left out was it has to render or convert those clips ... now from where i was sitting next to the editor i observed that everytime we added a effect , changed clips around there was rendering ... i have to say by the 4th day i was tired of rendering - it interferred with my flow of thinking ...
when we divided the frame into 9 blocks - every time we added a clip inside the 9 it rendered each time we popped in a clip ... he was on adding the 7 th clip when i decided to build it in vegas - i open one of the Vegas share 9 block Vegs ( from Vasst site) added 9 clips and we finsihed about the same time !!

i had made QT using sorenson 3 clips ( 3mps) codec with TC window for the editor ... Vegas had no problem cutting them .. however FCP had a hard time cutting them and the editor had to render/convert them all out to QT using DVCpro codec ( 10+ hrs rendering) = we lost a day's work ...

we did export a EDL from FCP and it was close when i opened the EDL in Vegas ( vegas didn't reconize the EDL so i had to use FILE - open ( change the file type to see ALL FILES - select the EDL and then lead Vegas to the clips as it opens ) ... every other clip had the correct i/o , the "other " clips was off by several frames ... in FCP we were running 2 video tracks and 6 audio tracks ... when Vegas opened the EDL it had only one video track and 15 audio tracks ...

at the end the editor rendered out a QT using dv codec and it would NOT play on a PC ... he then rendered out a QT using sorenson 3 codec and it played on a PC & in Vegas .. today was the last day for the editor ....

i'll just say i'll be very glad to get back to Vegas next week to contiue editing the project ....