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Kyle Cutshaw January 25th, 2005 10:43 PM

35mm cmos question
 
When will prosumers see a sub $5,000 camcorder that has a full frame 35mm cmos sensor? Which company will be the first?

Rob Lohman January 26th, 2005 04:20 AM

I've moved your post to are speculation-Area 51 forum.

I don't think that anyone is able to answer that question, but I'd
say that this is at least 5 - 10 years away from a known camera
company. A smaller one might start things, but I wouldn't get my
hopes up.

Matt Champagne January 26th, 2005 03:10 PM

Um...are there any full 35mm frame cmos camcorders other than the Dalsa?

Its just so hard to do I think because that size...though physically small...in terms of cmos chips is enormous. You need new die sizes, and since chips are often defective, one defective chip of this size is like having 4 defective normal sized chips. Not to mention out of a normal sized 12 inch (or is it 10inch) wafer...you aren't going to get that many chips out of them. That wafer cost is basically fixed...so the smaller they make a chip..the more chips they can get out of a wafer...thus cheaper cameras have smaller chips.


The better question might be when we will we see a sub $50,000 camera with a 35mm cmos chip.

Dylan Couper January 26th, 2005 06:04 PM

Sure, you'll probably find a Dalsa on Ebay for less than $5,000....






...In about 2032.

Matt Champagne January 27th, 2005 06:59 AM

well technically you can get it for less than $5000 now...if you can shoot your whole movie in one day....

Filip Kovcin February 10th, 2005 07:08 PM

any news about 35mm full frame cmos? some pre-nab rumors?

Michael Struthers February 10th, 2005 07:27 PM

oH, about 10 years...

Filip Kovcin February 11th, 2005 02:58 AM

:)

Jose di Cani February 11th, 2005 06:50 PM

good question.

5-10 years is like a long long short time, if you know what I mean. The cam-market shou dlhave introduced a 35-mm model in 2003 for 5000 dollar/euros, but they didn't. Evrybody is afraid. In the meanwhile ahtlona and intel lower their prices and produce smaller chips. grrrrrrrrr

Mark Sasahara February 14th, 2005 11:24 PM

Re: 35mm cmos question
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Kyle Cutshaw : When will prosumers see a sub $5,000 camcorder that has a full frame 35mm cmos sensor? Which company will be the first? -->>>

Ahhh, yer gonna waitin' a long time for that one, peanut.

Xiaoli Wang February 14th, 2005 11:46 PM

The Arri D-20 has a 35mm CMOS. Is the chip made by Dalsa?

http://www.arri.com/prod/cam/d_20/articles.htm

Valeriu Campan March 2nd, 2005 12:40 AM

Custom made by FillFactory.
Also Panavision has an Academy size chip.

Obin Olson March 7th, 2005 08:04 PM

I know that 35mm sized chips are 6-12megapixels..too bad someone has not figured out how to take pixel 'chunks' from that HUGE data amount and get 1080p from that image! that would ROCK..I will look at doing this with our camera if I can find a 35mm sized cmos chip with cameralink output...anyone know of one?


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