Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

AX53 will not shoot UHD 60P only UHD 30P same as the AX100 which is why I only use both of these at 1920x1080 60P. Not a fan of slow frame rates. I do not yet have the Atomos Inferno but have a Blackmagic Video Assist which will record HD only via HDMI or SDI. This works fine from any of my camcorders. SDI or HDMI from the NX5U , HDMI from the others and will trigger from SDI ,HDMI triggers or tImecode running.

I have tested with setting GH5 HDMI output to 1920x1080 60P when the GH5 is recording UHD60 and the Video Assist works fine triggering from timecode sent by the GH5.

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

I hope Sony is NOT going to rely on their customers staying away from the GH5 because it's not full frame.

I'm the biggest Sony guys there is. I'm literally a Sony zombie fanboy. But if Sony's A7S-III doesn't have 10bit HDMI out?....I'm NOT going to buy. I'll keep my A7s-II and uses this years camera budget to apply to my new GH5. Panny gets my money and Sony looses out.

I'm pretty sure there are ALLOT of Sony guys that will do the same thing. I strongly believe that the GH5 WILL compete for the same customer dollars that the A7 series does.

I dont think there is any true "sensor size" loyalty or brand loyalty.

CT

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

Well, all we got was 1 UHS-II slot (FINALLY) and dual slot with 1 UHS-II and 1 UHS-I slot.

Still 8bit HDMI and still 4K 30p (with crop factor)

I'm no longer convinced. I'm getting a GH5.

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

It is nicely priced so that if you really want a video camera you would buy the FS5 and if you wanted UHD 60P then you have to buy the FS7 !!! I think that Sony are a little stuck protecting existing products that lack some features now introduced by Panasonic both with the GH5 and the UX180/ HC-X1. If they bring out competitive products they cannibalize the current product line. They are missing the point that SD cards are fine up to 150 or even 400Mbps with V90 cards and if one needs higher quality then an external recorder with a nice big screen is a better alternative than going to XQD cards !!! It is really strange that 4 years ago Sony introduced the FDR-AX1 ( that I have ) and the PXW-Z100 and all they had to do was update them with the sensors now in the UX180/HC-X1 leaving the specs as they were. I was waiting for this to happen but gave up and have bought the GH5 instead !!! The only time since the Hi8 VX3 I have not updated to a Sony camera. All at this same price point of about $4500. For me moving to an FS7 equipped as I would want is just too much. I wanted UHD60P with touch focus only the Panasonic's give me this yet I would have bought a AX100 variant with UHD60P as I like the feature set on that or the AX53. Strange marketing logic !!!!

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

So now we have a great idea of what the A9-S is going to look like. So we only have two more days until we find out but here is my prediction:

Typical 8 bit XAVC-S UHD 100 Mbp/s. Not internal 10bit.

10bit HDMI output at 30p but you cant record 8bit internal while sending 10bit from HDMI

20MP sensor - Almost 6k sensor scan and downsample to 4k in full frame mode and simple 1:1 UHD Super 35 crop mode. 20mp is just about enough to support both modes.

No 29 minute limit.

Heat trouble? Maybe during internal recording but 10bit HDMI output only will run cool.

This should be enough to protect the FS7 and the FS5 upgraded model too.

CT

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

Looks like it's only the A9, and no A9R or A9S.

No 10bit HDMI, and people shooting 4K 30p still have a dreaded crop factor problem.

Sony does not have an answer to the GH5's 10bit and 4K 60p offerings.

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

Wow.....was I seriously wrong or what? Sony is letting the GH5 play all by itself with no Sony 10bit challange.

Something is wrong at Sony. This is the second total Sony NAB bust in a row. Im starting to get worried for them.

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

Don't have an answer for the UX180/HC-X1 or the DVX200 either. FDR-AX1 and PXW-Z100 are still in the lineup as the only competition that are 4 years old technology. As a Sony fan-- sad. Learning my GH5 now. I have had it for 2 weeks.

Re: SONY's answer to the GH5?
 

What we can hope is that the next iteration of the A7S and A7R is still in development to answer back, but it looks like we'll have to wait for the announcement of that camera, and hopefully it will have 2 UHS-II slots.