************************************************ Doug Jensen settings for EX1 http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-26.html#post976293 MATRIX: SETTING: ON SELECT: HIGH SAT LEVEL: 0 PHASE: 0 R-G: 0 R-B: 0 G-R: 0 G-B: 0 B-R: 0 B-G: 0 COLOR CORRECTION: SETTING: OFF AREA DETECTION AREA INDICATION: OFF TARGET PHASE: 130 TARGET WIDTH: 40 LEVEL: 0 WHITE: OFFSET WHITE: OFF OFFSET: 0 OFFSET: 0 OFFSET: 0 PRESET WHITE: 5600 DETAIL: SETTING: ON LEVEL: 0 FREQUENCY: 0 CRISPENING: 0 H/V RATIO: 0 WHITE LIMITER: 0 BLACK LIMITER: 0 V DTL CREATION: Y KNEE APT LEVEL: 0 SKIN TONE DETAIL: SETTING: OFF LEVE: 0 AREA DETECTION AREA INDICATION: OFF SATURATION: 0 PHASE: 130 WIDTH: 40 KNEE: NOTHING GAMMA: LEVEL: 0 SELECT: CINE4 BLACK: -3 BLACK GAMMA: -2 LOW KEY SAT: 0 ************************************************ Short version of Dougs settings: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-30.html#post1031801 I've changed it slightly by setting BLACK to -2. No big deal. :) MATRIX: HIGH SAT PRESET WHITE: (what ever you want it to be for your shooting conditions) GAMMA: CINE4 BLACK: -3 BLACK GAMMA: -2 ************************************************ Another short version of Doug Jensens Training video: Matrix ON -High Sat, Level 3, Phase and r-g=0 Gamma CINE4 Black -3 Black Gamma -2 Low Key SAT = 0 Detail OFF -3db gain Other items not mentioned were off or default ************************************************ Eli Schmukler's comment that Doug Jensens EX3 field guide has newer settings: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/472237-pp-recipes-sticky-thread-2.html#post1482040 Interestingly, Doug Jensen's profiles as set out in his excellent PMW-EX3 Field Guide, which I own and highly recommend, are slightly different than those set forth in Marcus' material. As the EX3 field Guide is much newer than the original Vortex disk, he may have fine tuned his settings. The settings from the EX3 field guide are: Matrix On; set for High Sat White balance preset 5600 (for outdoors) Detail -10 Cine 4 Black level -3 Black Gamma -2 ************************************************ Bill Ravens Picture profile recipe True Color TC2 http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-7.html#post815954 Matrix ...............on Select................hisat Level..................0 Phase.................-5 R-G...................75 R-B...................0 G-R...................-18 G-B...................-32 B-R...................-27 B-G...................13 Gamma Level..............-40 Gamma Select.............CINE1 Black..........................-12 Black Gamma..............0 I dropped the CINE1 gamma levels from 0 to -40 to get the middle gray values at 50% IRE on the WFM. The STD3 profile was much closer. I had to drop the LEVELS to -15 to get middle gray at 50%. I was set at a fixed f/4.0 and 1/60 sec exposure for my tests. Knowing that, if one stays with the CINE1 preset, my recommendation is that you experiment with different GAMMA LEVELS, varying between 0 and -40, depending on what suits you for varying light conditions. The other CINE presets were quite surprising at how MUCH they stretched the blacks and compressed the hi-lights. Having seen that, I doubt I'll use them much. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-8.html#post819353 Gamma Level.............. 0 (changed from -40) this will probaby help the crushed blacks. I noticed the blacks were a bit crushed in your last -40 gamma setting. Well, at least in low light. You lose a little dynamic range, but, it takes less CCing in post. And selecting a CINE1, 3,or 4 setting, depending on how much black stretch you want/need. Once again, please set your white balance before using. --> Bill, thanks so much for the profile, it looks pretty good. Especially outside since I had a nice sunny day --> Bill your settings seem to give the best image I have seen so far! --> This seems to work good in bright light. ************************************************ Bill 1 year earlier: I still use a mix of TC2 with Black around -8. I prefer STD1 because it gives me the best latitude in post. If the scene is outdoors, in sunlight, STD1 blows out easily and I switch to Cine1 or cine4. I'm experimenting with a CINEMA setting instead of HISAT. New color matrix. ************************************************ Bill Ravens Latest "True Color" http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-24.html#post954984 MATRIX ON SELECT HISAT LEVEL 0 PHASE -5 R-G +75 R-B 0 G-R -18 G-B -32 B-R -27 B-G +13 OFFSET WHITE OFF DETAIL ON GAMMA LEVEL 0 GAMMA SELECT CINE 1/3/4 BLACK -4 BLACK GAMMA 0 SKIN TONE DETAIL OFF LOW KEY SAT 0 ************************************************ Check out post #120 on page 8 and download Bill Ravens recipes. Move them onto your sxs card (after renaming Bills file as he outlines) and import them onto your EX1 per the manual (page79 Retrieving the set Up File). Then check out post #262 for the key details on how to use them. Oh yes, and remember to white balance and always wear clean underwear :) ************************************************ Thomas William Alexander Indoor preset http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-25.html#post969865 I put Gamma level at -40 and CIN setting to CIN2. With light less then 60W you might want to set the CIN setting to CIN3. Matrix = Cinema Level -40 Phase +20 RG -30 RB +30 GR +75 GB -60 BR +99 BG +80 White = 2900 Skin tone = Off Black -20 Black Gamma -30 ************************************************ IMPORTANT NOTICES regarding details: Simon Wyndham http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-27.html#post984986 For a filmic look you can turn the detail off, but this doesn't help very much with the EX series because unlike cameras such as the F900 you cannot turn the detail off while leaving the Aperture correction on. On most of Sony's full size cameras you can do this. Turning the detail off gets rid of edge enhancement across the board. But by tuning the Aperture (high frequency) detail you can get really fine adjustments that can mimic different film types much more closely. This is not possible with the EX series of cameras though because they only have a broad detail adjustment with no separate Aperture Correction adjustment. For this reason I would not recommend turning the detail totally off on the EX cameras. Instead I would suggest reducing the detail, for example to -20, and then adjusting the Frequency setting to, for example +40. The Frequency setting adjusts the coarseness, or width, of the edge enhancement. The higher the setting the finer and more subtle the effect is. So it is possible to keep the edge enhancement but stop it from being intrusive. For documentary you may want slightly more enhancement than you would for a 'filmic' style. Turning the detail off can make things look a little too '8mm cine camera' to me. One other tip I can give is that for low light shots with the gain kicked and shadow areas, you may want to experiment with the crispening function. This function is also useful when used in conjunction with the detail adjustment as it will not only allow you to fine tune the detail enhancement to avoid enhancing the noise, but it will also allow you to further fine tune the parts of the picture you would like enhanced of those that you do not. Comment by Bill Ravens: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-24.html#post954980 As far as color goes, DETAIL doesn't matter. Use it at your discretion. The contemporary knowledge is that DETAIL ON/LEVEL 0 adds sharpening. DETAIL OFF and LEVEL-40 is approximately no sharpening. Comment by Bill Ravens: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-28.html#post985117 My issue with DETAIL ON is one few people will admit to. With detail on, as you point out, Tom, halos begin to form. No matter how much you suppress the halos, they're still part of the image. Essentially, this is mosquito noise which pushes the compression algorithms in the camera encoder really hard. Encoding halos sucks up bandwidth that would otherwise be available for image information. All this is most apparent when downrezzing to DV resolutions in line twitter and image softness. And so, I'm experimenting to see what happens with Detail ON at -20 to -40, which is for all intents and purposes, OFF; and frequency turned up as Symon suggests Answer by Alister Chapman: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-28.html#post985655 I normally run detail at -10 or -15 with frequency at +40 and crispening at -10. If shooting in low light I have detail at -25 and crispening at +40 which helps reduce overall noise when using gain ************************************************ http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/470936-pmw-350-lens-low-light-noise-etc-etc-2.html#post1474850 Alister Chapman Detail PMW350: All other settings are default, except Gamma HG 4. Detail Level -16 H/V Ratio +20 Frequency +35 White Limit +35 Black Limit +20 ************************************************ Oliver Neubert http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/110902-picture-profile-recipes-34.html#post1455035 I do a lot of contemporary dance videos. horrible contrast range for video, hot spotlights, dark curtains and a lot of action in the dark parts of the stage. I use 2-3 cameras all set to the following setting which I call CINEflat: 0 dB if possible -3 if absolutely necessary +6 (but never ever more than that) Matrix on select Cinema Level / Phase / R-G all 0 CC off Offset White off preset white 3200 (although on stages with modern lights or rock concerts I shoot with 5600) Gamma Level 0 Select: Cine4 Black Gamma + 25 !! It is quite a simple profile, but I am happy with the results. Aperture -30 I found that using +25 in the black gamma gives me the steps in the blacks that I need. (Dark scenes with dancers wearing black in front of a black curtain...) If I wish to crush the black later I still can in post, but if I record it crushed it I can't get the definition back without running into serious noise issues. ************************************************ ************************************************ EX1R: SD Alister Chapman http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/471956-ex1r-dv-pal-quality.html#post1479470 I did some work on picture profiles for SD on the EX1R. This profile was designed to match an older 2/3" SD cameras: Matrix; cinema, level +8 SD Detail Level +25, Frequency -65, crispening +10, White limit +50, black limit +55 Knee 90, Gamma: Std 2 level +5, Black Gamma +10 This profile gives some very hard detail correction, but the idea is to mimic an older SD camera that would also have similar strong detail correction. If the detail level is too high for your tastes reduce it to +8. If you would like more colour raise the Matrix level to +20 to +30.