Why no Avid Xpress Pro Section? at DVinfo.net

Josh Caldwell · November 25th, 2005, 05:02 PM

Just wondering why there's isn't a message board for DV editing on Avid.

Josh

Chris Hurd · November 25th, 2005, 05:23 PM

Thanks for the suggestion, Josh. With nearly 400,000 posts in our database, it's hard to keep up with everything going on around here. Do we have enough existing threads discussing Avid for SD or HD to warrant a dedicated forum? I don't start empty boards; we need about twenty topics or so already going in order to devote a specific forum to it.

Richard Alvarez · November 25th, 2005, 05:41 PM

Josh,

Those of us who cut on Avid are in a definite minority on this board. I usually get my tech questions answered at the Avid forum. Full of lots of knowledgeable people, but a lot of them are 'crusty old pros' who can be a bit short tempered when it comes to asking basic questions. RTFM is a big response to answers you could have gotten by doing a hand search of your manual. Still, for serious questions it's a good space. Not as friendly as this board. (Thanks in HUGE part to Chris and the generous moderators) But Avid tech does read it and respond occasionally to issues that arise. Marianne is the customer service rep, and a good lady.

www.avid.com

Under the "Support and Training" tab, click on forums.

Chris Hurd · November 25th, 2005, 05:52 PM

See this is why there's no Canopus forum here either. They do a great job running their own forum and I see no reason to try to repeat what they do.

Josh Caldwell · November 25th, 2005, 05:59 PM

Hey Chris,

Thanks. I was just curious. I do use the boards over at the Avid forum. I didn't know that to have a board for it there needs to be a significant amount of posts regarding it already. (Thought it might be a Chicken before the egg thing, people don't post cause there's no board for it.)

It's not a big deal, I was just curious why one wasn't up.

Thanks,
Josh

Chris Hurd · November 25th, 2005, 06:35 PM

Yeah, if there's one thing I don't like to do it's starting an empty forum. But lots of the boards on this site came about because folks were frequently talking about something on one of the other general boards here. That's how the whole "Alternative Imaging Methods" thing began, to cite our most famous example. I'm not at all opposed to firing up an Avid board but we'd need a couple of trusted, experienced people who enjoy talking about Avid in order to help maintain it... not to mention to help gather up all the existing threads, provided that we have that many. What, I don't know everything going on around here? That's right! It's too much to keep up with sometimes That's what the poor hapless volunteer moderators are for, heh.

Matt Brabender · November 25th, 2005, 07:11 PM

I use Avid and while I'd love an Avid section and lots of discussion, I agree that there definately hasn't been enough posts about Avid to warrant a new section.
Just post the threads in Non-linear DV Editing on the PC for now.

Sean McHenry · November 30th, 2005, 11:00 PM

I would post if there was one. The only thing I can say is that if there were an Avid section here, it would get some informal postings. The Avid boards, while they can be fun, are mostly serious. And while these forums are quite helpful, I think we have more fun here than the Avid forums can have.

Either way, I'm still here.

Sean McHenry

Matt Brabender · November 30th, 2005, 11:36 PM

Definately - I feel like a naughty child sometimes poking around the Avid forum for information people learnt years ago.
Nice people, but like you said, a lot more serious.

Chris Hurd · November 30th, 2005, 11:37 PM

Sorry about that, Sean and Matt, but the goal here at DV Info Net actually is to keep it serious and to keep things on-topic. While there is a definite sense of humor among our best members (and a rather elevated one at that), it's pretty subtle by intention. The main idea here is to keep the noise level down and stay focused on creating a friendly and easily searchable repository of solid technical information that's relatively free of distractions, like a library ideally. I want this site to appeal mostly to working professionals who are looking for a serious, distraction-free environment of information exchange. Thanks for understanding,

Ari Shomair · December 2nd, 2005, 10:54 AM

As an extreme avid amateur (Just bought Avid a month ago), I find the official Avid forums a little intimidating for the reasons outlined above -

Richard Alvarez · December 2nd, 2005, 11:49 AM

Yup, if you ask a question that's 'in the manual'... you'll get a pounding. Lots' of 'crotchety old pro's' on the forum. BUT it is a great place to get solid information. Just SEARCH the forum first for your topic, then RTFM, THEN if you don't find what you need, ask away. Like I said, Marianne from AVID is really helpful.

George Ellis · December 2nd, 2005, 02:16 PM

Well, the new Avid Liquid forum is a little more polite. You should have gotten that instead ;)

Sean McHenry · December 2nd, 2005, 04:50 PM

See, there you go. Liquid was with a, how should I say this, less professional(?) company. So when those guys showed up on the Avid forums, I'm guessing there is some gumbeling going on. There sure was when they bought Pinnacle. We were all wondering what they were thinking.

They should have tried for Matrox. Then the Axio wouldn't end up being a small thorn in their side.

Anyway, I bow to Chris. It's his house. There is already so much going on here it staggers my mind.

Sean

George Ellis · December 5th, 2005, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean McHenry

See, there you go. Liquid was with a, how should I say this, less professional(?) company. So when those guys showed up on the Avid forums, I'm guessing there is some gumbeling going on. There sure was when they bought Pinnacle. We were all wondering what they were thinking.

They should have tried for Matrox. Then the Axio wouldn't end up being a small thorn in their side.

Anyway, I bow to Chris. It's his house. There is already so much going on here it staggers my mind.

Sean

Only the Avid folks were grumbling. The only whining from the former PCLE folks has been that the Avid forums are not well organized by topic (hardware, edit, import/log, output, etc.).

And are you misunderestimating the Fast product, Liquid and what Studio is morphing too? They have some things no one else have. You should sit with someone and watch the workflow. I like the unlimited undos, autosave, and background render while I am editing :D Avid also bought one of the biggest consumer NLEs, which they lacked. Some folks make a lot more money selling a lot of inexpensive things vs a few expensive ones.

Chris - For the future, you could dump all things Avid in it, which would include Avid Studio now. But I kind of agree that there is not that much traffic for it.

November 25th, 2005, 05:02 PM	#1
Josh Caldwell Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 183	Why no Avid Xpress Pro Section? Just wondering why there's isn't a message board for DV editing on Avid. Josh __________________ Joshua Caldwell www.meyd-ent.com www.hollywoodboundanddown.com

November 25th, 2005, 05:23 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Thanks for the suggestion, Josh. With nearly 400,000 posts in our database, it's hard to keep up with everything going on around here. Do we have enough existing threads discussing Avid for SD or HD to warrant a dedicated forum? I don't start empty boards; we need about twenty topics or so already going in order to devote a specific forum to it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 25th, 2005, 05:52 PM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	See this is why there's no Canopus forum here either. They do a great job running their own forum and I see no reason to try to repeat what they do. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 25th, 2005, 05:59 PM	#5
Josh Caldwell Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 183	Hey Chris, Thanks. I was just curious. I do use the boards over at the Avid forum. I didn't know that to have a board for it there needs to be a significant amount of posts regarding it already. (Thought it might be a Chicken before the egg thing, people don't post cause there's no board for it.) It's not a big deal, I was just curious why one wasn't up. Thanks, Josh __________________ Joshua Caldwell www.meyd-ent.com www.hollywoodboundanddown.com

November 25th, 2005, 06:35 PM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Yeah, if there's one thing I don't like to do it's starting an empty forum. But lots of the boards on this site came about because folks were frequently talking about something on one of the other general boards here. That's how the whole "Alternative Imaging Methods" thing began, to cite our most famous example. I'm not at all opposed to firing up an Avid board but we'd need a couple of trusted, experienced people who enjoy talking about Avid in order to help maintain it... not to mention to help gather up all the existing threads, provided that we have that many. What, I don't know everything going on around here? That's right! It's too much to keep up with sometimes That's what the poor hapless volunteer moderators are for, heh. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 25th, 2005, 05:41 PM	#3
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Josh, Those of us who cut on Avid are in a definite minority on this board. I usually get my tech questions answered at the Avid forum. Full of lots of knowledgeable people, but a lot of them are 'crusty old pros' who can be a bit short tempered when it comes to asking basic questions. RTFM is a big response to answers you could have gotten by doing a hand search of your manual. Still, for serious questions it's a good space. Not as friendly as this board. (Thanks in HUGE part to Chris and the generous moderators) But Avid tech does read it and respond occasionally to issues that arise. Marianne is the customer service rep, and a good lady. www.avid.com Under the "Support and Training" tab, click on forums.

November 25th, 2005, 07:11 PM	#7
Matt Brabender Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 230	I use Avid and while I'd love an Avid section and lots of discussion, I agree that there definately hasn't been enough posts about Avid to warrant a new section. Just post the threads in Non-linear DV Editing on the PC for now.

November 30th, 2005, 11:00 PM	#8
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	I would post if there was one. The only thing I can say is that if there were an Avid section here, it would get some informal postings. The Avid boards, while they can be fun, are mostly serious. And while these forums are quite helpful, I think we have more fun here than the Avid forums can have. Either way, I'm still here. Sean McHenry __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

November 30th, 2005, 11:36 PM	#9
Matt Brabender Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 230	Definately - I feel like a naughty child sometimes poking around the Avid forum for information people learnt years ago. Nice people, but like you said, a lot more serious.

November 30th, 2005, 11:37 PM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Sorry about that, Sean and Matt, but the goal here at DV Info Net actually is to keep it serious and to keep things on-topic. While there is a definite sense of humor among our best members (and a rather elevated one at that), it's pretty subtle by intention. The main idea here is to keep the noise level down and stay focused on creating a friendly and easily searchable repository of solid technical information that's relatively free of distractions, like a library ideally. I want this site to appeal mostly to working professionals who are looking for a serious, distraction-free environment of information exchange. Thanks for understanding, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 2nd, 2005, 10:54 AM	#11
Ari Shomair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LA, California, USA Posts: 224	As an extreme avid amateur (Just bought Avid a month ago), I find the official Avid forums a little intimidating for the reasons outlined above -

December 2nd, 2005, 11:49 AM	#12
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Yup, if you ask a question that's 'in the manual'... you'll get a pounding. Lots' of 'crotchety old pro's' on the forum. BUT it is a great place to get solid information. Just SEARCH the forum first for your topic, then RTFM, THEN if you don't find what you need, ask away. Like I said, Marianne from AVID is really helpful.

December 2nd, 2005, 02:16 PM	#13
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	Well, the new Avid Liquid forum is a little more polite. You should have gotten that instead ;)

December 2nd, 2005, 04:50 PM	#14
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	See, there you go. Liquid was with a, how should I say this, less professional(?) company. So when those guys showed up on the Avid forums, I'm guessing there is some gumbeling going on. There sure was when they bought Pinnacle. We were all wondering what they were thinking. They should have tried for Matrox. Then the Axio wouldn't end up being a small thorn in their side. Anyway, I bow to Chris. It's his house. There is already so much going on here it staggers my mind. Sean __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com