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Steve Mullen October 21st, 2003 10:47 AM

Only on Mac, but don't expect any differences.

I've worked with Xpress DV on both Mac and PC and never found any differences.

Richard Alvarez October 21st, 2003 11:02 AM

Steve,

Coming as it does from a feature film production background, Avid's strong suit has always been long form. For media management, it's hands down the best. Glad you like FreeDV, enjoy PRO... my upgrade is on the way.

Richard

Christopher C. Murphy November 4th, 2003 04:30 PM

AVID releases new software
 
Could someone check to see if it will import HDV??

http://www.uemedia.net/CPC/videography/article_5030.shtml

It says, "MPEG-2" in the list of encodable formats.

Thanks,

Chris

Steve Mullen November 4th, 2003 04:41 PM

As soon as Avid updates XpressDV Pro to support 10.3 I'll be reviewing it.

And will check both HD Pixlet and HD MPEG-2 import.

Christopher C. Murphy November 4th, 2003 05:36 PM

Thanks Steve.

Chris

David Slingerland November 6th, 2003 06:50 AM

avid Expres pro
 
I am used to editing on fcp but now I have a job on AVID Express pro, i checked the manual but its not clear on a few things
1) in fcp i can look at a videofile in my browser but i can also see the audiofiles, how do i do that in AVID? I look at the audiofile to see where i want to cut...
2) When editing in the timeline with fcp i can simply drag and pull under to let audio go under other shots, how do i do it with AVID?
Part from this what are the major differences.?

I have been looking through the manual, but my native language is not english so it takes a long time and is not explained fully...

greetings

David

Richard Alvarez November 6th, 2003 08:50 AM

Major work flow differences.

Down on the left hand corner of the timeline, is a "Hamburger" icon. Click on this, and it will give you menus. Choose "Sample plot" and it will draw the audio waves. You can enlarge the track as big as you want to view it.

Up on the top toolbar, is a "Toolset" menu. Audieo toolset opens all of the audio tools. (Also color correction toolset, recording toolset etc.)

Also down on the left hand side of the timeline, are two "arrows" . Click the red one to "overwrite" and the yellow one to "Splice" (with ripple). When you click on a segment, it will be ready to move, delete, whatever.

FCP and Avid come from very different parradigms, and the workflow is different. FCP more closely resembles "Premier"... though FCP is moving towards a more "Avid" like interface.

Good luck.

Martin Garrison November 8th, 2003 01:28 AM

If you want to extend audio from one shot under another, you need to use what avid calls "trim mode". There is an icon that looks like a can of film, click on this. Then make sure only the tracks you want to adjust are activated, in this case the audio tracks. Now click on the transition you want to adjust. the sides will turn pink.


Up in the composer window you now see two shots. Beneath them are numbers of frames in two boxes. With both of these highlighted, click the >> or << arrows to pull the audio in the direction you want to go by ten frams.

It sound confusing but once you get the hang of it is a precise way to adjust edits. Look up "trim mode" in the manual for more info.

Nick Underwood November 21st, 2003 08:09 AM

Liquid Edition |Manual
 
Is the manual that comes with Pinnacle Liquid Edition essentially the same as the one for Edition 5 with a few changes or is it a new re-write. Having not had edition, I can't tell the difference.

The "addendum" talks about colour tracking and the motion control, so I am assuming the Liquid manual is the same as the original Edition 5 version...
Is that correct?

John Wilcox November 21st, 2003 11:32 AM

Nick,

I'm not sure how different the Editon5 and Liquid Edition manuals are. But if you want to check for yourself I think you can download both manual versions, in PDF format, from the support sections of the Pinnacle website. I think you may need to use the US (rather than UK) site to access the version 5 manual.

Hope this helps

Nick Underwood November 21st, 2003 12:24 PM

Many thanks John...Downloading right now !

Randy Reyes December 5th, 2003 06:22 PM

Hello everyone! I've been sifting through DVInfo's & Avids threads and there has been complaints about Avid Express Pro not being able to output 24PA projects. Can anyone clarify this for me? Why would they give you the ability to edit 24PA footage but not be able to output it in 24PA? Also, if you are able to output 24PA does the program just reverse the pulldown? Please help this confused guy.

I've been trying to nail down a decision between Avid and Vegas and just when Avid looked really promising I'm beginning to shift my weight towards Vegas. And just one more question: In a few sentences or less can anyone tell me which one is the overall champion in exporting to DVD and transferring to film? Now I'm talking about projects ranging anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes. Thanks guys!

Yang Wen December 6th, 2003 12:51 PM

I believe you need the Mojo option to be able to output the 24P stuff. Damn stupid and greedy if you ask me. I don't know how Vegas decided they'll give you 24P otuput at a lower price, but AVID decides you'd need to spend another $1K to get that feature.

Randy Reyes December 9th, 2003 09:50 AM

I know what you mean. It's a damn shame they didn't decide to include 24pa output in Avid Express Pro!! But anyhow, that's business i guess -- sad but true.

Hey for any of those Vegas users out there, how does the color correction tools fair?

Heath McKnight December 10th, 2003 11:00 AM

What about Avid?
 
Any word on Avid support for HDV? I'm going to be getting certified soon (what better way to get a new job), and am thinking about buying Avid Xpress DV. Let me know!

heath


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