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Marc Betz November 20th, 2002 09:12 PM

VegasŪ Video 3.0
 
Download: $419.97
I have used both and like vegas better

What do I know????

katelins November 21st, 2002 04:51 AM

Avid is pushing fairly hard, sounds like a good thing I think. I have a student version so it cost the same as VV. Do you know if Avid is planning on supporting 24P editing natively, perhaps as a kind of plug-in?

Frank Granovski November 21st, 2002 05:06 AM

I was thinking the same thing (Vegas). I'm pretty much sold on that and can't wait to start buying new computer parts...then the Vegas software. Although I've heard nothing but good about Avid, I'm afraid I'm just a poor guy so Avid is out. I was thinking Storm a while back, for it's PAL/NTSC conversion software (extra $), but Vegas has this feature built in.

Richard Alvarez November 21st, 2002 08:17 AM

Avid's powerpack already allows you to edit in 24 f for matchback. (Which is why it is so great for actually editing FILM) NO NLE currently edits in 24p. (No, not even FCP) Though they are talking about doing it. Basically, the new Panny camera shoots and converts a pulldown in camera... so everyone winds up editing in 29.97 anyway. (That's why you can see the image on a regualr monitor, and play the tapes in a regular player) Since there are no consumer 24p decks for playback, it is unclear at this point how the inustry will respond... so people are playing a 'wait and see who goes first game'.

Some people don't understand that AVID comes from a film-editing paradigm. The other NLE's come from a computer graphics paradigm. THis creates a different work-flow that often makes avid seem more difficult to master for those coming from a CG background.

I think the purchase of home computer NLE's is pushing AVID into the CG paradigm, even as FCP strives to be more "Avid-like". (Consider who invented the NLE interface).

In five years, my guess will be that there will be very little difference between NLE platforms. In short, about as much difference as there is between Microsoft WORD and WORDPERFECT.

Adi Head November 30th, 2002 12:22 PM

dual AMD Athlon and avid xpress dv3.5
 
i'm tempted to set up my system with Dual AMD Athlon MP2000 1.67 GHz processors and a Tyan Tiger MP motherboard.

BUT i know that AMD isn't in any of AVID's suggestested systems and therefore won't support it. or i've heard they will but for a $50/hour fee.

so my other option is INTEL pentium4 2.53 GHz 533 MHz FSB processor and either an Asus P4B533 845E motherboard or an INTEL Maryville motherboard.

if i give up the AMD setup to stay supported by avid, am i giving up much? or will the intel setup work fine with no major differences from a dual amd processor's capabilities?

or, do you think that i should go dual amd processors and rely on avid's forum or forums such as this one when i get stuck and risk that i won't need too many $50 hours with avid's support people.

would be happy to read your thoughts on this, especially from those who have experience with xpress dv3.5 on similar running systems.

thanks

Brad Herbert November 30th, 2002 01:38 PM

Dual Athlon Setup
 
This is just my .02 but I would probably just stick with a one processor setup, and put the money towards more HD space and xtra software packages.

I have been running 3.5 on my Single Athlon XP1800 setup on a Soyo Dragon Plus Platinum MB for about $350 total. One fast processor renders FX pretty fast, and is plenty sufficient for recording/playback/Realtime FX with no problems. With the savings of the Xtra processor and board that supports it you could buy another 20 Hours worth of storage.

Just thought I would chime in.

-Brad

Jason Wood November 30th, 2002 01:45 PM

I'm running dual AMD chips with XDV and I haven't had any problems. True they are not supported by Avid, but Avid only offers free support for 30 days, then you have to pay for the support period...And let me tell you, their support isn't very good to begin with. I find the Avid forums to be of greater help.

If I were building a system JUST for XDV I would go with a single processor. XDV doesn't really take advantage of the second chip. I've heard XDV performs only 25 to 50% faster than a single chip machine. If you do a lot of After Effects work...then I do recommend dual processors. AE is true multithreaded software.

As far as the Pentium Xeons VS AMD, many will tell you the dual Xeons are worth the extra money over the dual AMDs, but I can't justify it just yet. The latest AMD MP chips run a bit hotter but overall they perform extremely well.

If you do decide to go with the dual AMD chips, be prepared to tweak Windows XP Pro to the max.

Adi Head December 1st, 2002 04:59 PM

thanks all. what exactly does "tweak to the max" mean? my knowledge of computers is limited.

Jason Wood December 1st, 2002 06:20 PM

XP tweaks...

http://www.videoguys.com/WinXP.html

Adi Head December 2nd, 2002 09:59 AM

effects software w/ avid xpress dv3.5
 
what is the best effects/color correction software to work with on a system with avid xpress dv 3.5?

regarding AE:
i know of conflicts between avid xpress dv and premiere if on same system.
does after effects cause the same conflict? i though it might since its also adobe.

thanks.

Jason Wood December 2nd, 2002 11:01 AM

No, After Effects works like a charm with XDV. Get Automatic Duck and it will work even better.

And XDV has really really good in App Color Correction.

Gary Bettan December 2nd, 2002 11:54 AM

Boris Continuum Complete

The plug-ins a re seemless wit the Avid interface. They render fast as hell. real-time FX are coming by year end (FREE download to registered users)

Check out this new insider interview for more info http://www.videoguys.com/videoguy-bfx2.html

Gary

Adi Head December 2nd, 2002 06:36 PM

cool so as far as image control with after effects or with boris, i should have no problems using xdv 3.5.

what about sound software? i've read a couple of threads listed here on the subject, but didn't really get an idea if there is sound software which works better/worse with xpress dv 3.5.
basically interested in the following:
protools
cubase
sound forge
sonar

thanks.

Gary Bettan December 3rd, 2002 07:42 AM

XDV 3.5 includes a suite of audio tools. It alos includes about a dozen pro-tools plug-ins. Ypu can add additional pro-tools plug-ins to XDV.

Gary
Videoguys.com

Rob Lohman December 5th, 2002 12:00 PM

I would not go with a dual processor system either. Put your money
that you save elsewhere. Memory and especially harddisk space
(or a DVD burner?) is much more interesting in my opinion.

And if AVID is not multi processor aware you will not gain
any speed increase at all (almost).

Good luck with your choice.


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