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Kelly Goden December 8th, 2007 02:10 PM

Sorry to confuse you--it helps to read previous posts carefully--but I guess that's the same as striving for accuracy, which some people detest.
But it happens to me too. I was confused after learning that the real Elliot Ness didnt have a family(just a cat) after watching the Untouchables, given how central the fake family was to the story.
But that's Hollywood.

In 500 years I guess we can expect a Korean War movie with Hitler as a good guy who beats Napoelon in a jet fighter duel.

Andy Graham December 8th, 2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelly Goden (Post 789351)
Sorry to confuse you--it helps to read previous posts carefully--but I guess that's the same as striving for accuracy, which some people detest.

lol touche

Andy.

Kelly Goden December 8th, 2007 03:37 PM

Sorry I didnt want to sound snippy.

I was going to add a ;) in there somewhere to lighten it up but in the heat of the moment I neglected to.


To actually get back to topic for a moment, Beowulf vs Grendel is on a local channel this week so i will catch that before I see this one!

Andy Graham December 9th, 2007 03:26 AM

Thats cool Kelly i didn't mean your being touchy , i meant touche (too-shay) as in you have me there, good point.

Andy.

Kelly Goden December 9th, 2007 05:00 AM

Yeah I figured that was what you meant I just thought maybe I sounded a bit harsh. :) This thread is becoming all about accuracy! lol

Yi Fong Yu December 9th, 2007 02:16 PM

are you guys for real? the poem of beowulf is FICTION! what historical inaccuracies are you talking about? lol.

even history back then were iffy. there's imply not a lot of evidence one way or another of who's who just like 300. we dunno how many they were against. just rough estimates.

even real "history" itself is mythical, lol.

Heath McKnight December 9th, 2007 02:22 PM

I think Woody Allen said it best in Annie Hall: "Just don't take any class where you have to read 'Beowulf'."

heath

Andy Graham December 9th, 2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Yi Fong Yu (Post 789775)
are you guys for real? the poem of beowulf is FICTION! what historical inaccuracies are you talking about? lol.

Were talking more in general terms of stories, historcal events being altered for amusement. But i supose thats a whole other thread.

Andy.

Kelly Goden December 9th, 2007 04:44 PM

Yes it was two separate lines of thought.
One was on changes to legendary stories(I hate saying Beowulf is entirely fiction because there may well have been a real Beowulf king) and the other was on movies that are based on history.

And this whole digression started because I just said(in response to someone else who was talking about them changing the story) that I didnt expect them to be any more faithful with Beowulf when they havent been with any other similar works (Troy, etc) and when they dont feel compelled to be with entirely historical works (i.e Gladiator). They always change things. Which isnt a criticism in itself(though i really dont get the family element in Untouchables because it seemed so tacked on..).

I hope that clears things up.

Anyway--I havent read Beowulf in years.

Dylan Pank December 9th, 2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath McKnight (Post 789778)
I think Woody Allen said it best in Annie Hall: "Just don't take any class where you have to read 'Beowulf'."

heath

You, Heath, and the other 3 million movie reviewers who have been quoting the line ad nauseum!

Hey, tell you what, don't go to any film school where they make you watch "Interiors!"

Heath McKnight December 9th, 2007 07:10 PM

Or any film school, like my old one, where they say The English Patient really DID deserve the Oscar.

Anyway, it's a shame Beowulf tanked (not in 3D--the opening weekend in 3D accounted for 40% of the total gross).

heath

Carl Middleton December 9th, 2007 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelly Goden (Post 789351)
In 500 years I guess we can expect a Korean War movie with Hitler as a good guy who beats Napoelon in a jet fighter duel.

Hahahahaha.... I really would not be surprised! Well, I suppose it's pretty hard to be surprised after dying 400 years earlier. :)

Carl

Dylan Pank December 10th, 2007 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath McKnight (Post 789854)
Or any film school, like my old one, where they say The English Patient really DID deserve the Oscar.

Anyway, it's a shame Beowulf tanked (not in 3D--the opening weekend in 3D accounted for 40% of the total gross).

heath

According to Boxofficeguru it was more like 29%, but that was from 20% of the screens, so the premium on 3D was only like 30% over normal screenings. Considering the difference in ticket prices it wasn't that big a deal.

I don't see that it's a "shame" that Beowulf flopped. The Golden Compass was also a disappointment, so we might be coming to the end the CGI heavy Fantasy adventure much as the triple whammy of Alexander, Kingdom of Heaven and troy finished of the Neo Epic's. Sure we'll get the a couple more Narnias, and finish of the rest of the Potter films, but after that, who knowsm, we'll be up for the next cycle.

Andy Graham December 10th, 2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylan Pank (Post 790053)
but after that, who knowsm, we'll be up for the next cycle.

Iv been waiting for arthur c clarke's "Rendezvous with rama" series to be made for a while now, its a four book scifi monster. Word is that Morgan Freeman owns the rights and intends to play one of the lead roles, that would be an epic scifi quadrilogy if they get made, watch this space it may be the next big thing.....i just hope they do the books justice.

Andy.

Dave Robinson December 10th, 2007 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy Graham (Post 790184)
Iv been waiting for arthur c clarke's "Rendezvous with rama" series to be made for a while now, its a four book scifi monster.

Four books? I've read Rendezvous with Rama but never realised there were three more books?! Why did no one tell me?!


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