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Alex Anderson July 9th, 2013 03:54 AM

What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
I was wondering what people don't like about the BMPCC from what you know so far. Keeping in mind that it only does HD. I wish it had higher framerates for some good slo mo.

Jim Andrada July 9th, 2013 06:54 AM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Biggest dislike is that I can't get my hands on one yet:<))

Alex Anderson July 9th, 2013 04:34 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
I just got the bad news from a local reseller in my area that he cannot get a delivery anytime soon. He was told by the main distributor here in the US that the east coast has 5602 paid pre orders in line. :-(

Alex

Jeff Troiano July 9th, 2013 04:51 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Hope I'm in the middle to upper portion of that list.

John McCully July 9th, 2013 05:28 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
An EVF, 60p and delivery tomorrow would be nice...

Ruben Kremer July 10th, 2013 12:31 AM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
I'd wouldn't mind it having 60p, even if it were only in ProRes with a slightly reduced bitrate - do ProRes 422 non-HQ would be fiiiine :-)

Long Truong July 10th, 2013 02:32 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Is it me or there is no wide angle lens option for this camera?

Jeff Troiano July 10th, 2013 03:13 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Long Truong (Post 1804183)
Is it me or there is no wide angle lens option for this camera?

Don't know if you'll get wider then 21mm, with the Panasonic 7-14 f4.0

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/630570-REG/Panasonic_H_F007014_Lumix_G_Vario_7_14mm.html
I plan on picking one up eventually


Cliff Totten July 10th, 2013 04:34 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
The Pocket Cinema Cam supposedly has a 1920x1080 sensor.

I was hoping that was about 20 or 30% higher. A little bit of over sampling for the debayer process might have been a good idea.

Can't wait to see this camera pointed at resolution charts.

CT

Long Truong July 10th, 2013 05:10 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Troiano (Post 1804188)
Don't know if you'll get wider then 21mm, with the Panasonic 7-14 f4.0

Panasonic Lumix G Vario 7-14mm f/4.0 ASPH. Lens - Micro

I plan on picking one up eventually

The Panasonic Lumix 7-14mm f4 Zoom Lens - YouTube

I was hoping to find something much faster than f4.0 that can be comparable to a Canon 24mm f1.4 on a 5D

The restriction in low light of this camera doesn't help either.

Jeff Troiano July 10th, 2013 05:53 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Long Truong (Post 1804202)
I was hoping to find something much faster than f4.0 that can be comparable to a Canon 24mm f1.4 on a 5D

The restriction in low light of this camera doesn't help either.

Thinking 36mm will be as close as you'll get, that fast.

I like fast lens, but my intended use is indie film making, and I light as much as possible.

Long Truong July 11th, 2013 09:09 AM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Just did a quick research and with the PL mount adapter, you'd be able to get some fast S16 lenses which would pretty much address my concerns.

Jeff Troiano July 11th, 2013 09:49 AM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Long Truong (Post 1804281)
Just did a quick research and with the PL mount adapter, you'd be able to get some fast S16 lenses which would pretty much address my concerns.

Would you be interested in kicking off a thread of "non m4/3" lens options for the pocket camera. I'd love to hear about these resources.

Long Truong July 11th, 2013 02:59 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Troiano (Post 1804290)
Would you be interested in kicking off a thread of "non m4/3" lens options for the pocket camera. I'd love to hear about these resources.

I'm still only starting to learn about them so I might not be too resourceful but I can try to share my finds.


On another note, I've been looking at battery options for the Pocket camera and was thinking of getting an external battery pack that outputs 12V like this one:

Anker® Astro Pro 10000mAh Multi-voltage 5V / 9V / 12V 2A Dual USB Output External Battery

If my calculations are right. This should give it about 10h of continuous shooting considering that a genuine Nikon EN-EL20 battery (1020mAh) will give it approximately 1h.

Noa Put July 11th, 2013 03:41 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Is there actually any news about deliverytime? I thought July was mentioned? It's funny to see another thread talking about a camera that nobody has and that usually it's about a bmc camera. :)

John McCully July 11th, 2013 04:45 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Well may you ask! Not a word have I heard.

But, come July 25th, 2013, about 8 30 am I fully expect a knock on my door and it will be the delivery person with a smile, and my BMPCC.

Pigs might fly, ha ha ha. No, seriously, I’m optimistic. I already have a lens sitting here just waiting for consummation.

Jeff Troiano July 11th, 2013 04:53 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
The place where I preordered my pocket cam, I had also preordered a lens. I happen to notice they charged my card card about 36 hours before updating their site, and my online order status, that my lens was in and shipping. So I keep checking my online card account, to see,if the charge gets initiated.

Ryan Jones July 12th, 2013 10:05 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
My local dealer tells me it'll be here in a week or two, so I'm pretty hopeful.

I've got one lens here waiting, a 14-42 OIS, and a MFT-EF adaptor I'm hoping might work.

Now all I need are a couple of SD cards and a couple of batteries, and ready to hit the ground running.

Long Truong July 12th, 2013 11:39 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Jones (Post 1804505)
My local dealer tells me it'll be here in a week or two, so I'm pretty hopeful.

I've got one lens here waiting, a 14-42 OIS, and a MFT-EF adaptor I'm hoping might work.

Now all I need are a couple of SD cards and a couple of batteries, and ready to hit the ground running.

Which MFT-EF adaptor do you have may I ask?

Is it the Redrock Micro one?

John Brawley July 13th, 2013 11:34 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Totten (Post 1804197)
The Pocket Cinema Cam supposedly has a 1920x1080 sensor.

I was hoping that was about 20 or 30% higher. A little bit of over sampling for the debayer process might have been a good idea.

That's exactly why the 2.5K BMCC exists.

jb

John Brawley July 13th, 2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Long Truong (Post 1804202)
I was hoping to find something much faster than f4.0 that can be comparable to a Canon 24mm f1.4 on a 5D

The restriction in low light of this camera doesn't help either.

They exist. I bet you won't like the cost.

There's the Zeiss Ultraspeed 6mm T1.3

There's the Century 6mm T1.9 (which also has an excellent 4.5mm attachment)

Otherwise a 12mm T1.6 SLR magic works well.

jb

Jeff Troiano July 13th, 2013 11:41 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Brawley (Post 1804590)
They exist. I bet you won't like the cost.

There's the Zeiss Ultraspeed 6mm T1.3

There's the Century 6mm T1.9 (which also has an excellent 4.5mm attachment)

Otherwise a 12mm T1.6 SLR magic works well.

jb

You tease us John! Any new footage yet?

John Brawley July 13th, 2013 11:43 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
As you can see I've been shooting with it.

Nothing I can release as yet.

jb

Jeff Troiano July 13th, 2013 11:45 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Can I ask which PL mount that is? Looking into one for my Pocket Cam

John Brawley July 13th, 2013 11:47 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
The HotRod PL adaptor.

Works brilliantly out of the box. Has also the option for LW lens support as well.

jb

Noa Put July 24th, 2013 12:35 AM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
That's what John said, he was just pointing out that very fast wide angle lenses do exist.

Arthur Gannis July 24th, 2013 08:26 AM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Sensor too small. They should have put a 4/3 size one instead so it could use all them lenses easily. The body itself is way too tiny , a bit larger with space to fit a larger capacity battery and a larger screen with touch menus. Besides some other things too many to mention.

Alex Anderson July 24th, 2013 05:29 PM

Re: What Don't You Like about the BMPCC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Brawley (Post 1804589)
That's exactly why the 2.5K BMCC exists.

jb

And how do I get the BMCC in my pocket, smarty? :-)

Alex


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