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John McCully September 2nd, 2013 03:36 AM

Pocket camera – first day, first impressions...
 
I read that this fellow put his new Pocket Camera on Ebay and got about $1800.00, US that is, for it. Good for him. I wouldn’t take $1800.00 for mine, that’s for sure. I’m not sure how much money it would take to take to prise it from my hands and I’m not about to find out. Which is to say today was a good day. After several fumbles getting going, none of which caused irreparable damage to me or the camera, and under a super-bright sun in a biting cold wind I finally hit the record button with little understanding of what I was doing and even less understanding of what was happening under the hood.

After the first few clips I headed down into the village and purchased another pair of reading glasses, plus 3 which is the strongest available. So now I use two pair of reading glasses and can just make out what I need to see on the screen and then only when I shade the thing. No doubt you people with younger eyes shooting in seedy clubs in polluted cities will not have this problem but here in the open under the fierce southern sun the screen is almost useless.

And in these conditions an ND filter is absolutely essential. I have one but it’s a huge 77mm size and I need to get step-up rings or a variable ND filter that fits the lens I have.

Which brings me to the lens. John Brawley said the Panasonic 14-42 el cheapo works just fine, and so it does, but in my hands it’s quite useless. On a tripod no problem but seems the built in image stabilization is not activated on the Pocket camera and none of my hand-held footage is worth a damn. The tripod stuff is a different matter altogether, I’m delighted to report. So I need a new lens, and one that has built in image stabilization that works on the Pocket Camera. Suggestions most welcome.

I shot using both the video mode and the film mode. Under the conditions of today film mode is the way to go.

A quick play in post, for me that’s Vegas Pro 12, seems simple enough and very effective. White balance adjustment, sharpening, brightness and contrast and render off to whatever and the results are nice, very nice. I am more than delighted, and that was just day one.

It’s been said already but let me repeat; this is not a point and shoot camera. But it’s not rocket science either. I reckon by the end of summer (and spring has just begun) I might have this thing sorted.

White orbs and black spots – nope; not a problem, at least not today.

Well done, Blackmagic, and thanks.

Jeff Troiano September 2nd, 2013 08:08 AM

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Thanks for the brief review. Looking forward to some footage. I just watched half part 2 of Blooms review. I'm loving the images I'm seeing so far. Also just watched a short video someone posted filmed at Rotterdam Harbor. I'm sure if I watched frame by frame, the white orb issue would be there in the harbor videos but why would anyone watch something like that? Can't wait to get my hands on mine.

Michael Dalton September 4th, 2013 03:10 AM

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would agree the need for an ND filter is frustrating. I'm sitting in the Serengeti with amazing things happening all around and I can use it. Mind you it's not my primary or even secondary camera, so it's no loss.

Kris Zimbelman September 4th, 2013 06:18 AM

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Dear KRIS ZIMBELMAN,

We are pleased to inform you that the following items from your order have been shipped. (If this email was sent on a Sunday or a Legal Holiday, your order has been packed and will be shipped on the next business day.)

BLPKCINECAM 1 Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera

John McCully September 4th, 2013 03:01 PM

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Good for you Kris, I trust you get a kick out of getting to know the Camera, as I’m sure you will.

Given the limitations of the cheap 14 42 lens and that the stabilization is ineffective on the Pocket I went ahead and ordered the new Panasonic Lumix G Vario 14-140mm F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / Power O.I.S H-FS14140. I asked the question over at the Blackmagic forum but no feed back there. It is a new lens and perhaps they are few and far between. The stabilization is reported to be more effective than the earlier model and in as much as all it needs from the Pocket is power it should be just fine. If not then I might just need to get a Panasonic G6 body:-)

When that arrives, along with ND filters and a spare battery, I should be good to go.

Now if only the howling southerly winds would cease and desist...horizontal sleet is a pain!

Steve Bleasdale September 4th, 2013 03:40 PM

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I can tell you the g6 is amazing and it was a choice g6 v B.M.C.C , the g6 came out tops...check this out g6 playing around from the camera just standard profile

Dylan Tobias September 5th, 2013 05:59 AM

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"check this out g6 playing around"

Not impressed, look cheap and bad in shadows.

Jeff Troiano September 5th, 2013 06:48 PM

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Saw this a little while ago. I'm wondering if this is ungraded pocket camera footage.


Wacharapong Chiowanich September 5th, 2013 09:58 PM

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Hard to judge from what appears in the above video. The scenes outside the windows in the BMPCC clip look a little overexposed compared to those in the GH3's. The BMPCC's shadows also show more details against mere dark shadows in the GH3's, again could just be the result of more exposure. Added in the YouTube compression, different degrees of grading, then you could probably make one look decidedly distinct than the other either way.

John McCully September 5th, 2013 11:19 PM

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I agree, it is hard to judge, so much so that I've given up trying.

Today was the first decent day here in a while and I made the most of it. I filled a 32GB card just as the battery ran out. So tonight we will see what happens in post.

I have a new battery, battery charger and lens due early next week. Total expense to date about $2000 US.

Steve Bleasdale September 6th, 2013 12:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan Tobias (Post 1811448)
"check this out g6 playing around"

Not impressed, look cheap and bad in shadows.

You trying to be smart???

Kris Zimbelman September 6th, 2013 12:18 PM

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I just received my camera. I have not taken the lens cap Off yet, and I'm wondering if this affects whether the camera will come on or not. I'm just trying to charge the battery. I've plugged the camera into a power supply and there are no indications that It is charging. when I push the power button I just get a flash of light at the bottom of the screen.

John McCully September 6th, 2013 01:20 PM

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Kris, the power switch is tricky. One needs to press it for a second or more to turn the camera on however if you continue holding it the camera will turn on, the flash of light appears, and then it turns off again. So press the power button and immediately you see the flash of light let it go. It should then be powered up and the information bar, small that it is, should appear at the bottom of the screen and at the right-hand end the battery status should be visible..

It matters not whether you have a lens attached or a card inserted, at least that is so on mine.

Good luck

Kris Zimbelman September 6th, 2013 04:01 PM

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got it , Thanks
I will be attending the University of Oklahoma\West Virginia football game which starts at 6 PM tomorrow.
I plan on taking some band shots as they walk through the campus, tailgating and some game sequence.
I will be shooting Pro RES. This is the lens I will be using.
https://secure.bhphotovideo.com/c/se...op+Nav-Search=

I know that the conditions can vary and that these things can change on the run, but can you recommend any initial settings?

Jeff Troiano September 6th, 2013 04:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Zimbelman (Post 1811728)
I will be shooting Pro RES. This is the lens I will be using.[

I hope you'll post some video, as I have that lens patiently waiting for the pocket camera to arrive. Looking forward to seeing some nice wide open depth of field shots.


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