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Markus Nord September 11th, 2012 01:30 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
I wounding what UW housing they was using ('caz all shoots was from the C100, right?). Is the gates housing supporting C100 too !?!

Mark Koha September 11th, 2012 02:33 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
I imagine they just adapted the one for the 300/500

Monday Isa September 11th, 2012 02:33 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Koha (Post 1752821)
Excuse my ignorance, but why is 60p so important for slow mo? And are people really using slow mo that much that it's a make or break deal for a camera?.....
It depends on your line of work. For my line of work I've been very happy to have slow-motion at my disposal. Real slow-motion has such a different look then post slow mo. I'm not happy this cam doesn't have 60P but the resolution for me, nd filters, sensor size, and price is worth sacrificing slow-mo. It may not be for others. It's a tough call. My AF100 does not meet the resolution nor sensor size I can with the C100. No win for this next season for me. Oh well. In the end it's a tool. Others have specific needs then others.

Mark Koha September 11th, 2012 03:22 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
my main line of questioning is why 60p is better than 60i for slow mo.

Mark OConnell September 11th, 2012 05:37 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
60i isn't slow motion, it's interlaced.

Monday Isa September 11th, 2012 05:52 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Also I believe all LCD/Plasma displays are progressive not interlaced. So to use 60i as slow mo you're using 1920X540 once interpolated instead of getting a full 1920X1080 with 60P. You're losing resolution with 60i once using it for slowmo.

Mark Koha September 11th, 2012 07:13 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark OConnell (Post 1752857)
60i isn't slow motion, it's interlaced.
60p isn't slow motion either until it's played back at a different speed. You can watch 60p video all day long played back at 60 frames a second and it won't be slow motion.

Andy Wilkinson September 12th, 2012 03:51 AM
Re: Canon EOS C100 & Atomos Ninja 2
 
I liked the last line best!

Murray Christian September 12th, 2012 12:11 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Giberti (Post 1752618)
The one thing that's really obvious from the behind the scenes is that they didn't consider the EVF to be quite up to par, as they had a Zacuto gaffer taped to the LCD.
Where do you see this, btw? They look like loupes to me. Or is that what you mean? (doesn't seem particularly significant if it is). Maybe I missed something.

Andy Wilkinson September 13th, 2012 03:33 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100 and Zacuto Z-Finder
 
Looks like Zacuto have all their add ons already covered/tuned for the C100.

Mark OConnell September 13th, 2012 10:49 PM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Koha (Post 1752870)
60p isn't slow motion either until it's played back at a different speed. You can watch 60p video all day long played back at 60 frames a second and it won't be slow motion.
True true true...

Glen Vandermolen September 14th, 2012 04:37 AM
Re: Canon EOS C100 and Zacuto Z-Finder
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Wilkinson (Post 1753268)
Looks like Zacuto have all their add ons already covered/tuned for the C100.
If Canon had put a proper EVF on the C100, instead of that ridiculously small .24" peephole, Zacuto wouldn't have needed to build anything.

Mike Marriage September 14th, 2012 05:52 AM
Re: Canon EOS C100 and Zacuto Z-Finder
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen Vandermolen (Post 1753341)
If Canon had put a proper EVF on the C100, instead of that ridiculously small .24" peephole, Zacuto wouldn't have needed to build anything.
Very true!

Although I normally prefer a shoulder mount, I think the C100 is small enough to pull off this style of design, just a shame they deliberately crippled it with a small EVF and consumer codec when the far cheaper XF100 has 50Mbps 4:2:2.

Clearly they are protecting the C300 but makes you wonder what the difference in production cost is between a C100 and C300. It makes the C300 price hike seem very steep.

Nigel Barker September 14th, 2012 06:43 AM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Marriage (Post 1753348)
Very true!

Although I normally prefer a shoulder mount, I think the C100 is small enough to pull off this style of design, just a shame they deliberately crippled it with a small EVF and consumer codec when the far cheaper XF100 has 50Mbps 4:2:2.
The EVF & screen look very like the ones on the XF100 & the EVF on that is pretty useless. In fact I just looked up the specifications & while they are identical in size 0.24" EVF & 3.5" screen the EVF on the C100 does have a higher resolution at 960x540 versus 640x480 on the XF100.

Mike Marriage September 14th, 2012 06:59 AM
Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nigel Barker (Post 1753355)
The EVF & screen look very like the ones on the XF100 & the EVF on that is pretty useless.
I agree, have an XF100 as a little C cam and although I like it, the EVF is one of the weakest aspects. Hopefully the C100's is significantly better.


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