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Sam Piggott May 4th, 2010 12:09 PM

I'd happily donate, particularly if the intermediate ISO settings are made available :)

Peter Malcolm May 6th, 2010 03:34 PM

I would donate to this project.

Please make this a reality!

Daniel Rudd May 8th, 2010 12:09 PM

Let's Do This.
 
Alright, here's my attempt to get this thing in motion.

I think that if we are going to get a lot of t2i filmmakers on board with donations, potential donors need to trust that the money will go toward development, and that they will get a vote in how the money is spent.

To use the "ChipIn" service that was suggested, the donations have to go to someone's paypal account, I'm nominating myself as the person to do it.

Obviously, creating a non-profit entity with a board of directors and all kinds of accountability would be better, but that would take a very long time.

So if we really want to do this, there will have to an individual who has some solid reasons why they can be trusted to "hold" everyone's money and then disperse it according to the wishes of the group.

Here's why I think I'm a decent candidate for this:

I make a living through a small music licensing company (www.Stock20.com - Flash Detection) that primarily services independent video professionals, videographers, film-makers, and photographers. Most of my business comes through word of mouth. My company offers a 100% unconditional and unending money-back guarantee on every product we sell.

In short, my reputation online (and in this forum) is worth far more to me, then any amount of money we would raise for this project.

So finding an individual that can demonstrate a good reason for staying honest, seems like the best way to get things in motion.

If there is someone else that would fit this description better, I'd be more than willing to defer.

Otherwise, I think it's time to take some action. I really want to expand some functionality on my t2i.

I've set up a ChipIn account and posted some initial "terms" there.
ChipIn: t2i Magic Lantern Development

It's just a starting point. I can't think of a better way to get this rolling. But maybe someone else can.

If there seems to be some momentum on this, maybe others will volunteer there skills or resources to promote the project.

I think we could probably set up an inexpensive google adwords account to attract more t2i filmmaker users. But probably we could promote it best through our own connections.

Let me know what you guys think.

Bryan McCullough May 8th, 2010 12:27 PM

Daniel,

I think you'd be great to handle the money, I have no question about that. Personally I'm just waiting for Tramm to say he's ready and then I'll donate.

Aaron Dunlap May 8th, 2010 09:36 PM

That will be my impetus as well. All the money in the world wont do any good until someone with the time and knowledge to make it happen steps up to the plate. As soon as Tramm says he can do it and all that he's waiting on is a camera, I'm definitely in.

Daniel Rudd May 8th, 2010 09:51 PM

from tramm's post it sounded like step one was acquiring a firmware dump.
And he thought there might be one out there, but wasn't sure.
Once that was acquired he'd need a camera.

So here are my thoughts and questions:
1) I'm sure time is a limitation. Aren't there others working on this project as well? Couldn't we hire programmers to work on it?
2) Would hiring someone speed up the aquisition of the firmware that tramm needs?
3) is it possible that some version of ML could get rid of the stuff that stays on the screen when you are exporting uncompressed video through the HDMI (when you aren't recording to the SD card)?

For me that last thing would be the most valuable hack. If I could record full HD uncompressed 10bit straight to a computer with a blackmagic card, I would be one happy camper (this would also allow you to use an HD monitor while acquiring footage.

It seems like if we had an amount of money ready to go, the right kind of programmers would step forward to bid on the job. (but maybe that's just demonstrating how little I know about firmware modifications).

Scott Wilkinson May 14th, 2010 07:04 AM

I'll gladly ChipIn for Magic Lantern on the T2i as well. Others haven't said, but I'd be willing to ChipIn up to $50---especially (as others have said) if Tramm (or whoever) says they're working on it.

Scott

David A. Ludwig May 14th, 2010 08:47 AM

I'm IN
 
count me in too when the man is on our case.

Stephen Henderson May 14th, 2010 11:26 PM

I'm in too for chipping in.

Alan Carpenter May 16th, 2010 10:12 PM

plus 1
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Julian Jansen May 17th, 2010 03:58 AM

I'm in for the chip.

James Donnelly May 17th, 2010 03:58 AM

...plus 1. $50 towards the camera once we get a dump to play with.

Stephen Henderson June 17th, 2010 10:36 AM

For any T2i shooters who have joined in the last month or so, add your name here if you would be up for helping pay for some firmware magic!

Terry Gray June 17th, 2010 11:16 AM

I'm in for the chip in...

Andrea Ruffini June 17th, 2010 12:23 PM

I'm in for the chip in

Stephen Henderson June 17th, 2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David St. Juskow (Post 1509456)
...if there was some way to create an HD movie crop mode... that movie crop mode is awesome and brilliant- there's no reason why you couldn't do the same thing but with an HD frame size- obviously it's not going to magnify as much, but who cares- having a built-in telefoto like that is great. Shooting HD all the time, the SD movie crop is kinda limited, so why not tweak it a little? .

Great idea, and potentially you could do this right in the center of the sensor, that way there would be no aliasing/moire issues, etc.

But even if things kinds of things can't be done with magic firmware, I'd still pay 20$ for it just for the stuff it does do.

Ed Kishel June 17th, 2010 01:21 PM

+1 again.... gotta get rid of that AGC

during Canon's T2i launch party the boast "external mic input for professional microphones" only to cripple it for professionals with the AGC

Joel Peregrine June 17th, 2010 11:05 PM

In..........

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Henderson (Post 1539555)
For any T2i shooters who have joined in the last month or so, add your name here if you would be up for helping pay for some firmware magic!


Claude Lee Sadik June 19th, 2010 01:38 AM

Same! I'm in...

Bryan Harley June 20th, 2010 12:06 AM

I'm in as well.

Matt Martin June 20th, 2010 12:41 AM

I'm down - count me in.

Rob deJong June 24th, 2010 08:10 AM

I am in too!

Ed Kishel June 24th, 2010 12:32 PM

I read over at the ML wikia page and it basically says that Canon has pretty much locked up the T2i from 3rd party firmwares: State of the Latern: 1 year anniversary - Magic Lantern firmware development | Google Groups

But for those who would still like to bug Canon about T2i features, contact info is below:

carecenter@cits.canon.com

1-800-828-4040 (choose tech support option and tell the operator you want to fill out a "Canon Customer Voice" request).

I asked them to make it possible to disable the AGC on the T2i in a future update. It only took 5 min. If enough people bug them they might buckle (like they did with the 5D MK2)

Torben Scharling June 24th, 2010 08:38 PM

I would gladly pay for a fix..meanwhile I'll bug Canon about it and hope everyone else does the same.

Chris Barcellos June 24th, 2010 10:47 PM

I ve been testing in the ML program since last year when Trammel Hudson first fired up his plan to crack the camera. It has been amazing, and interesting. I have the T2i and had similar hopes for it. But I can tell that Canon has locked things down pretty tight on both the 7D and the T2i. Reading between the lines of Trammels posts, he is thinking its going to take a lot more time than he has to get into the cameras. Its almost as if Canon is saying, if you are going to get into one of our cameras, its going to be the higher priced one.....

Ed Kishel June 25th, 2010 01:36 PM

even on Canon's cheaper HV and HF models you can turn off AGC- so they are aware that some users don't want that feature as it has drawbacks. They should at least give us the option that is avail on their less expensive models.....

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/0/030000...v40-nim-en.pdf page 65
http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/5/030000...100-nim-en.pdf page 136

I'm not expecting raw out or anthing, come-on kill the AGC at least. Saves alot of time from having to sync in post.

Bryan Harley June 26th, 2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Kishel (Post 1541934)
But for those who would still like to bug Canon about T2i features, contact info is below:

carecenter@cits.canon.com

Thanks! I just bugged them.

David Barnes July 1st, 2010 07:08 AM

chip in
 
hi,
I am happy to chip in.
Can all the people who wish to chip in just declare it on this thread. Every person that chips in brings the mean price down.
David

James Strange July 1st, 2010 07:09 PM

Just got my 550d to compliment my 7d

I'd chip in for sure

JAmes

Jose Perez July 8th, 2010 02:30 AM

I remember reading in this thread about the need for a firmware update in order to start the magic lantern process and getting the author to produce it. So i wanted to bump this and to see if we can get something going.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...-v1-0-8-a.html

That's a thread in there forums that mentions the upgrade, here is a direct link to canon's site for the update:

Canon EOS REBEL T2i / 550D Firmware Update

Would love to see if this opens the possibilitty for us T2i users

James Donnelly July 8th, 2010 03:52 AM

I think it is a firmware dump that is required. The firmware image in the official update will be encrypted, so you can't start to reverse engineer it.

The problem seems to be that the usual methods of getting a Canon to dump it's firmware are not applicable to the t2i, so I guess they really don't want us to hack. My bet is still on the hackers though.

B.J. Szabicot July 9th, 2010 06:22 PM

I'm in for $20 if this is still a going concern.

Ed Kishel July 10th, 2010 02:27 PM

for all the new posters who are wanting to chip in- note that the guy who cracked the 5D said he can't do it for the T2i (see the wiki on ML) so I would suggest this:

rather than just offering to chip in (or in addition to) please contact canon and log a formal complaint- the contact info is above (post #63). IF the T2i firmware can't be cracked then canon is the last hope. If they get enough owners wanting these changes something might happen

it only takes 5 minutes

Brad Higerd July 20th, 2010 01:17 PM

Good word Ed!

I just wrote Canon, and shared that we're looking to buy more T2i's (we have two already), but we can't justify the purchase until the AGC issue is resolved. I requested zebra stripes too. In effect, I shared that, without the update, these cameras are limited to impact shots and shoots with independent audio recording. Hopefully, they'll respond if we keep the emails flowing.

Brad

Brad Higerd July 21st, 2010 12:35 PM

CANON's RESPONSE:

"I understand that you would want firmware released for a feature much
desired by your EOS Digital Rebel T2i, but unfortunately there is no
such update that will allow for a feature that is not created for your
camera. There may be, however, other third party programs that may
create the effect that you are seeking through post production. I am
sorry for the inconvenience that this may have caused you."

Thane Silliker August 4th, 2010 03:18 PM

Also a willing participant in getting this firmware fixed for us. Nice little camera!

Dave Therault August 4th, 2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Kishel (Post 1547189)
for all the new posters who are wanting to chip in- note that the guy who cracked the 5D said he can't do it for the T2i (see the wiki on ML)...

Pardon my apparent ignorance, but:

550D - Magic Lantern Firmware Wiki

AND


James Binder August 4th, 2010 06:57 PM

Awesome -- great start! Thank you --

David Ells August 4th, 2010 07:21 PM

i'll chip in

Ed Kishel August 5th, 2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Therault (Post 1555571)

you are pardoned as I posted that suggestion before Tramm released this great news. Until just recently, the wiki stated that firmware work on the T2i/7d had stopped. Read the earlier parts of this thread, I was up for chipping in (and still am).


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