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Mark Dobson August 7th, 2012 03:55 AM

New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
So here it is!

Canon U.S.A. : Consumer & Home Office : EOS 7D

Mountain Lion version wasn't downloading when I tried but the Lion version works fine. After all all you are downloading is a zip folder.

Full instructions included.

So at long, long, last we have control over the audio input.

And that's about it for us 7D filmmakers.

All the other updates are stills related.

Mat Thompson August 7th, 2012 05:29 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Just done the update.

Am I just being dull but I can't seem to get levels on screen only in the menu!

Anyone ?

Mark Dobson August 7th, 2012 06:48 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Hi Mat,

Don't think you can get levels on screen. I think the idea is that you preset your levels because you can't change them during recording.

That's unless I'm also being dull!

Ron Little August 7th, 2012 10:41 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
I did the update. Now I have banding in the image. Does anyone else have banding? Can you go back to the other firmware?

Andy Wilkinson August 7th, 2012 11:44 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Ron. Not sure if you can go back or not as I've not read all the blurb on the install instructions yet (I always wait a week or two to see if there are any bug reports before upgrading anything!). If you can't then I have a suggestion. Maybe try and download the firmware again and do a completely fresh re-install (i.e. over the version you installed today) just in case you got a corruption in the file first time around. Might be worth a try?

Ciprian Ganciulescu August 8th, 2012 06:40 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Hi guys,
Did the update also banding, and the camera feels slugish, maybe it's just me. Overall the banding isn't visible but noticeable in dark areas of the pictures.

Andy Wilkinson August 8th, 2012 06:50 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
So we now have 2 separate reports of a problem with banding.... I have read (on another video forum) that some have installed the new firmware update without seeing any problems (at least not yet).

I wonder what's going on? Canon will have thoroughly tested this firmware before release (I would imagine!) so this is a little concerning.

Ron and Ciprian, thanks for sharing the information. I suggest you contact Canon to inform them of your findings.

Ron Little August 8th, 2012 07:55 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
OK, I have shot some test footage and opened it in Premiere and the banding does not appear in the recorded footage. More testing on my part is in order.

Luc Novovitch August 8th, 2012 10:04 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
So how did you check the first time before reporting banding? On your camera screen? Or on a srcreen which is part of your rig? If it's the case it may have to do with how the camera displays the clip on its screen or to a screen linked to the camera, but in fact the clip is just fine.

L

Ron Little August 8th, 2012 10:56 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
There was no checking. After I loaded the firmware you could see the banding on the LCD. You could see it when you tilt the camera up and down.

Ciprian Ganciulescu August 8th, 2012 12:30 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
So Ron, did you or did you not see banding, because i don't understand from your last two posts. For me banding appears on the Cinestyle only, in the others is almost unnoticeable, maybe it has something to do with the Cinestyle's low contrast.

Also another thingy', it seems that I can't use the Auto ISO function in movie mode, or maybe I got it wrong in the first place about using it in movie mode, for photos it's fine.

Ron Little August 8th, 2012 02:41 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Yes, the banding shows up on the LCD but not on the recorded image. There was no banding on the LCD before the update. As long as It is only on the LCD I am cool.

Ron Little August 8th, 2012 03:52 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
I just checked it again and the banding is clearly there on the LCD. I do not see it on the recorded footage. I will have to shoot and test some more before I will feel confident enough to use it on a paying job.

Michael Sims August 8th, 2012 06:04 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Did mine today. Couldn't have been easier.

Daniel Epstein August 8th, 2012 06:17 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Ron,
Do you have any special settings in use for your on camera monitor? What Video settings are you using?

Ron Little August 9th, 2012 06:47 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Daniel, I have it set on faithful right now but I see it in standard as well. The bad news is it is showing up in the recorded footage. It has made my camera useless for video. I am going to try to load the old firmware back on the camera then test it again.

John Richard August 9th, 2012 07:48 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
This is hard to believe that the banding is not an isolated incident related to an anomaly with a single camera. Surely Canon would have picked this banding issue up in testing.

Think I will wait to see how this turns out. I am wondering why we are not hearing this from many others?

Ron Little August 9th, 2012 08:27 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Highlight tone priority was the culprit. Switched it off and the banding went away.

Bob Willis August 9th, 2012 09:39 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
I believe that HTP has caused some banding problems in the 7D from the beginning and should be turned off for shooting video. One more reason to have a separate body for shooting stills if you are capturing both video and photos.

Ciprian Ganciulescu August 9th, 2012 01:09 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Hi guys, I have to confirm what Ron already found out about the Highlight Tone Priority feature, it produced quite alot of banding, switched it off and no problem now, everything works fine.

Andy Wilkinson August 9th, 2012 02:11 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
OK sounds like all is well and we are good to go. Thanks for the running updates. Much appreciated.

Now I can download with confidence.

Daniel Epstein August 9th, 2012 06:11 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Good catch Ron. I guess you have to make records of your settings before doing the update so you can compare what the camera is doing that is new and different settings wise.

Andy Wilkinson August 10th, 2012 03:21 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Just updated mine. All is well.

Daniel Epstein August 10th, 2012 11:21 AM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
So far so good here as well. Also trying out a new Rokinon 14mm Lens. Camera asked me to make sure I had a lens attached to it and only would enter movie mode after hitting the start stop button twice. Not sure if this is any different operation than in the past.

Markus Nord August 10th, 2012 12:51 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Epstein (Post 1747894)
So far so good here as well. Also trying out a new Rokinon 14mm Lens. Camera asked me to make sure I had a lens attached to it and only would enter movie mode after hitting the start stop button twice. Not sure if this is any different operation than in the past.

Same as usual, because the lens does not communicate with the camera, the camera thinks that it is no lens attached. In video mode the mirror is flipped up and the sensor is exposed (and unprotected) so the camera will make sure that you know what you are doing…. That my understanding of the massage…

I did my update a few days ago and all is fine for me too…

Derek Reich September 14th, 2012 04:35 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
I must be a complete idiot..... but I can't seem to find any audio settings anywhere in the menu. I did get a lot of the other updates (in-camera RAW, max ISO) but no audio anything? What am I missing here?

nevermind.... I just downloaded the update a second time, and reloaded it into the camera, and all is good!

Ron Little September 14th, 2012 05:01 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
Look in the forth menu from the left, forth selection down, it says sound recording.

Derek Reich September 14th, 2012 05:17 PM

Re: New EOS 7D Firmware now available
 
yep.... wasn't there the first time I downloaded the firmware. weird thing is the other features were! I checked and double checked both in the stills menu and the video menu. nada. BUT, when I downloaded the firmware update a second time, and loaded that one into the camera, it was there. go figure.


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