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Nigel Barker August 2nd, 2009 02:05 PM

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HD video o Vimeo is 1280x720 H.264 at 5Mbps so for best picture quality you should convert your video to that specification before uploading.
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Originally Posted by Perrone Ford (Post 1179786)
Why is that?

Perhaps I could have phrased that better.

If you convert to H.264 at or a little higher than the target 5Mbps rate for Vimeo 1280x720 video then you will see next to no difference in quality between what you upload & what Vimeo hosts. So when you are happy with the quality at 5Mbps then you know that Vimeo won't mess it up. The other advantage is that it will take less time to upload than if you upload a higher bit rate file. You have no way of knowing how Vimeo will recompress your video or what the quality will be like especially if it's not H.264.

Billy Griffin August 2nd, 2009 02:18 PM

What about Adobe Media Encoder; anyone using that? I basically can create my own Flash video with this tool. Video quality looks outstanding!

Bill Binder August 3rd, 2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Griffin (Post 1179969)
What about Adobe Media Encoder; anyone using that? I basically can create my own Flash video with this tool. Video quality looks outstanding!

If you can create your own flash at around or under 1mbs, then Blip.tv is your friend. You can upload your flash file and they will stream it WITHOUT re-encoding the file. Plus, they'll play it back at 30fps (whereas Vimeo will both re-encode and play it back at 24fps). Although Blip won't do "HD", but I get GREAT results from 640x360 1mbs FLV uploaded to their servers when it comes to streaming content.

Nigel Barker August 3rd, 2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Binder (Post 1180276)
Plus, they'll play it back at 30fps (whereas Vimeo will both re-encode and play it back at 24fps).

Vimeo apparently no longer converts HD video to 25fps but leaves it unaltered if it is up to 30fps.

Bill Binder August 3rd, 2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nigel Barker (Post 1180318)
Vimeo apparently no longer converts HD video to 25fps but leaves it unaltered if it is up to 30fps.

I'm skeptical considering the terrible stuttering I see in most 5D2 videos on Vimeo. Where'd you get that info? Any links to their faqs or ? I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'm not convinced either.

Also, I've yet to find any other FREE video resource than Blip.tv that will stream my file verbatim without re-encoding it. That right there is worth trying Blip.tv alone.

Nigel Barker August 4th, 2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Binder (Post 1180338)
I'm skeptical considering the terrible stuttering I see in most 5D2 videos on Vimeo. Where'd you get that info? Any links to their faqs or ? I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'm not convinced either.

One of the Vimeo staff stated in their forum that now that they convert everything to H.264 & not FLV that they don't force the frame rate to 25fps for HD but leave it unchanged up to 30fps. I don't have a link but remember it well for I was involved in the conversation as I had been bitching about the terrible juddering on 5DII videos & even got a refund on my Vimeo Pro account because the quality was unacceptable. It seems OK now provided that you have the latest Flash Player installed & a decent network connection (1280x720 is 5Mbps)

Bill Binder August 4th, 2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nigel Barker (Post 1180892)
One of the Vimeo staff stated in their forum that now that they convert everything to H.264 & not FLV that they don't force the frame rate to 25fps for HD but leave it unchanged up to 30fps. I don't have a link but remember it well for I was involved in the conversation as I had been bitching about the terrible juddering on 5DII videos & even got a refund on my Vimeo Pro account because the quality was unacceptable. It seems OK now provided that you have the latest Flash Player installed & a decent network connection (1280x720 is 5Mbps)

Thanks for following up. This intrigues me, maybe I've give them a second look now.

Billy Griffin August 6th, 2009 07:20 PM

So I notice my raw files, the .MOV files direct from the camera, appear to 'flicker' or pulse/jerk about once every second. Is this due to playback, write speed to the CF card, etc. ??? Please help ???


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