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Brian Luce September 13th, 2009 07:15 PM

5d gets pwn'd by EX1 in snowboard video (link)
 
Here's a video that shows the DSLR's have a ways to go yet before challenging the Cinealtas for low budget supremacy. YouTube - Canon 5D Mark II Vs. Sony PMW EX1

Chris Barcellos September 13th, 2009 07:55 PM

If only the shooters knew what they were doing....

Jon Fairhurst September 13th, 2009 08:23 PM

I expected the problem to be skew. Instead, this was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen from the 5D. I'm pretty sure that they had fog between the lens and UV filter, if not on the sensor. That will kill contrast and colors immediately.

BTW, don't bother asking how I know that fog behind a UV filter will kill your image... ;)

Brian Luce September 13th, 2009 09:13 PM

Yeah, EX series may indeed produce the better pic, but something has to be amiss here. That looks like it was shot with a Nokia.

Charles Papert September 13th, 2009 11:14 PM

Useless comparison. I don't know how and when it became more important to present camera tests as music videos (or even more pretentiously, "films") and make it about the editing and soundtrack instead of what really counts: in this instance, controlled, apples-to-apples duplication of the same setups as shot by both cameras.

Bill Davis September 13th, 2009 11:21 PM

Yeah, it's the cameras. Just like it's the brand of piano for the musicians. And the type of stove or the cooks. And the brand of thread for the tailors. And the type of clippers for the landscapers. And the scalpel manufacturers for the surgeons.

You know, that viewpoint is so inarguable that I'm going to go dump all my Beatles vinyl - since it's clear that they were made on substandard instruments and limited electronics and would have been SO much better if only those guys had had better gear.


(sarcasm mode off)

Jim Miller September 14th, 2009 10:08 AM

I think someone got a little confused and imported their iPhone footage.

Scott Hayes September 14th, 2009 12:36 PM

this video sucks. even the EX1 looks dark and flat.

Brad McGiveron September 14th, 2009 03:17 PM

hmm ... both cameras are not being done justice here. Specially the 5D!

Talk about picking a day with possibly the worst lighting to do a comparison or anything.

Bill Pryor September 14th, 2009 03:29 PM

What Charles said.

I didn't watch it all, but the Canon footage I saw was always a longer shot than the EX, and underexposed and out of focus. The EX wasn't much better.

Peter Burke September 15th, 2009 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Luce (Post 1350183)
Here's a video that shows the DSLR's have a ways to go yet before challenging the Cinealtas for low budget supremacy. YouTube - Canon 5D Mark II Vs. Sony PMW EX1

Ian Provo might dissagree with you.

The EX1 certainly cannot do this;
Search videos for 'ian provo' on Vimeo

and the EX1 cannot do this either;
3 candles on Vimeo

Looks like the EX1 has been well and truely superceeded by the 5D2...

Tom Roper September 15th, 2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Burke (Post 1355141)
Looks like the EX1 has been well and truely superceeded by the 5D2...

Well and truly disagree, have both cams.

Andrew Clark September 15th, 2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Davis (Post 1350899)
You know, that viewpoint is so inarguable that I'm going to go dump all my Beatles vinyl - since it's clear that they were made on substandard instruments and limited electronics and would have been SO much better if only those guys had had better gear.
(sarcasm mode off)

Maybe it's like....

"....looking through a Glass Onion"!!

Denis OKeefe September 15th, 2009 07:35 PM

different hammers, different jobs
 
Skilled cabinet makes can all use a framing hammer, some framers can use a mallet or tack hammer exquisitely. As photographers (moving image or not) we are getting some amazing tools and better hammers for different jobs these days. I would have killed for a camera capable of 3 lux (or 300 lux) a year ago - even if it was a half inch chip. Some are using these tools to amazing effect. I'm grateful to this forum for leading me to Dan Chung and his extraordinary work in China, a part (okay REALLY BIG part) of the world he illuminates every time he goes on a job. If the 5D is a better tool for him we all benefit. This camera, the EX, the 7D, Scarlet, or whatever comes next move the boundaries of what we can do in the field, and these changes are happening more quickly than ever before. I'll probably never shoot time lapse stuff like the Timescapes Inc guys, but I like knowing the techniques they've shared and now if I have the opportunity I have a whole new hammer I never knew existed in my bag of tricks. Commonly available cameras and freely shared knowledge make so much possible.
I never understood the guys driving Chevy trucks (in the US) with an image of a kid pissing on Ford. Probably a bad example, maybe no one else in the world develops allegiances to brand names - oh, wait, (or as we say here) fuggedaboutit!
We have new tools almost everyday and for those with skills ( and without skills) this is a most interesting playground.
Michelangelo used a chisel and brush, W. Eugene Smith shot in black and white, they would have envied our largess.
Stop fighting brands boys (and women) - enjoy!

Buba Kastorski September 16th, 2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Burke (Post 1355141)

Looks like the EX1 has been well and truely superceeded by the 5D2...

Completely agree, have both;


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