Interesting...

All PANASONIC AVC Cameras I know use high profile (HP@L4). This may be one of the reasons why the footage from PANASONIC or CANON cameras is not supported by Vegas (SONY cameras use MP@L4). Someone in this forum said that the new PANASONIC FullHD camera generation (SX5, SD5) uses 13 MBPS with CBR. I cannot believe this, it does not make any sense.

Ulead videostudio claims they support AVCHD. So maybe that's an alternative even though not as powerful but good enough for most.

Otherwise you could convert but quite a hassle and you have to make sure it doesn't result in quality loss.

Not an expert on real-time encoders but seems CBR would be much easier to do.
I wonder how these real-time encoder decide it can lower the bitrate in a scene (since in theory more is always better).

Try samples from Sony SR7 and Panasonic SX6
http://www.archive.org/download/hdv_...sr7_02.MTS.mpg
http://www.archive.org/download/hdv_...cx6_02.MTS.mpg

Both Sony SR7 and Panasonic SX6 had similar parameter of streams MP@L4.
Vegas7e can import those streams no problem.
Only HP@L4 samples produced by Canon HG10 impossible edit within Vegas7.

File cx6_02.MTS.mpg is from a SONY camcorder (CX6 Memory Stick Camera). Btw. the new PANASONIC camcorders use a FUJITSU codec, which supports high profile HP@L4.0 but no PAFF and MBAFF. I don't know what codec the CANON camera is using (inhouse design or third party part).

Heinz, sorry, my mistake. I've mixed SX5 (Panasonic) with CX6 (Sony).

Thank you for clarification.

Popphoto.com:

http://www.popphoto.com/photonews/44...-controls.html

heath

iMovie 24P
 

does iMovie 08 work with HV20/HG10 24p or just 30?

Opening just fine in Vegas 7e for me, Guy.

Not opening for me in Vegas 7e, DSE.

Spot, if you are opening Austin's raw AVCHD files in Vegas 7.0e, something else is at play. I'm using Vegas 7.0e Build 216, which I believe is the latest update. I have tried opening all the raw files that Austin has posted here and none open irregardless of whether the file extension is MTS or M2TS. This is the same behavior I get with Panasonic AVCHD files. If you are successfully opening and editing the raw AVCHD in 7.0e, I'm willing to accept something is wrong with my machine. Suggestions on fixing the problem are appreciated. Here are the errors I get from Vegas when I try to open or import these files:

I haven't shot with the HG10, but can say that there would be no transport noise. I'd expect the buttons to make noise, and on a couple of Austin's clips (thanks for those, BTW) the buttons cannot be heard well, but can be heard. Same with the Sony CX7. On a tripod it's dead silent. The HG10 is likely the same.

Which clips can you hear the original audio? I tried a few but the audio are all overdubbed in those. The clips on watch-impress unfortunately always have this loud chirping sounds (crickets I assume).

That sounds very promising since that's the biggest thing I hate about the HV20 (and fixing appears overly complex if you're only interested in casual shooting). Also from what I've seen the AVCHD decoder works well enough now for my taste (the test clip from watch-impress is pretty good).

By the way I tried to play the MTS file from watch-impress and I can see the problems at this point. I wasn't able to load the file in the programs that claimed compatibility. But I think that's temporary.

I'm having issues also with the same version of Vegas

Like Guy I can not open any of Austin's raw AVCHD files in Vegas 7.0e, Build 216. Tried with the file extension MTS and M2TS.

I have no problems opening raw AVCHD files from the Sony HDR-SR1.



Rich

I had no problem converting them to Cineform Intermediate using HDLink...