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Lee Wilson March 24th, 2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barlow Elton (Post 647504)
I'm sure the actual 25p PAL version of HV20 footage won't have interlace artifacts at all. It's carried in the 1080i stream, but it's pure progressive.

Yes I agree.

Geoff Murrin March 24th, 2007 02:51 PM

I've noticed some bubbly macroblocking in the womens black coat. Is this apparent in the original footage, or is it just from all the hoops it jumped through to get compressed for the web? Other than that, it looks great.

And did anybody see the incredible HV20 + Brevis shot in the other thread? AMAZING. Would love to see the original footage on my 40 inch samsung lcd via HDMI.

Chris Harris March 24th, 2007 02:53 PM

The footage looks absolutely amazing! So when you edit 24p from the HV20, can you just edit in your NLE's 1080p24 preset and have it look this good? Or do you really have to convert and remove the pulldown and all that? I'm confused here.

Barlow Elton March 24th, 2007 04:30 PM

You have to convert and remove pulldown. Some NLE's remove pulldown on-the-fly, as do a lot of DVD players and HDTV's, so it might not be such a bad idea to simply edit as 60i.

Chris Harris March 25th, 2007 09:23 AM

So in what case would you edit using the 24p preset in an NLE, say Final Cut Pro? What happens if you dump the HV20's 24p footage into the 24p timeline?

Austin Meyers March 25th, 2007 09:32 AM

24p
 
if you dump it into a 24p timeline without removing the pulldown it will just thinks it's another 60i clip and it will want to render everything.

Salah Baker March 30th, 2007 04:05 PM

The HV-20 cine clips are not like the other canons PsF frames they are P in a 60i Mpeg 2 stream(same pull you would use on say a Sony)

Salah Baker March 30th, 2007 04:34 PM

and.....

Barlow,
I think the HDV (60i) over the Cine (24p) setting actually hurts the HV 20 performance
As for i-AF ...turn it off

Barlow Elton March 30th, 2007 04:54 PM

Here's a clip from the HV20 and Brevis.

http://disk.dvinfo.net/public/media/...V20-72024p.mov

Tomas Chinchilla March 30th, 2007 05:02 PM

What settings in CT did you use for the telecline?

I have tried many and no luck......using MPEGSTREAM and AIC Full quality then CT, no matter what option I have used I still get the interlaced artifacts.

Chris Barcellos March 30th, 2007 05:03 PM

Barlow. No access to the clip. Maybe to many jumped on it already...

Barlow Elton March 30th, 2007 05:12 PM

It's uploaded to the server. I don't know if I posted an incorrect url or not. I sent an email to Chris's server guy so hopefully it'll get resolved soon.

It's basic raw test footage with a few minor mistakes (I didn't zoom in far enough on the ground glass to not see edge vibration in the frame) but it was still fun to tweak. It's kind of high contrast "grunge" stuff for effect. Hope you like it.

Chris Barcellos March 30th, 2007 05:18 PM

Barlow:

How did you set up the Brevis-- 72 achromat, or the standard ?

How hard to set up zoom and focus.

Got HV20 on order, and looking at Brevis, so am a bit curious.

Barlow Elton March 30th, 2007 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos (Post 651673)
Barlow:

How did you set up the Brevis-- 72 achromat, or the standard ?

How hard to set up zoom and focus.

Got HV20 on order, and looking at Brevis, so am a bit curious.

Actually used a step ring with a Red Rock achromat. Not too hard to set zoom and focus, but I'm pretty new to this stuff so it's not quite as sharp as I'm sure it can ultimately look, but I still like the results.

Chris Barcellos March 30th, 2007 05:25 PM

Funny. I have the Brevis Achromat, and using it with my DIY 35Micro built from plans by Redrock :)


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