And this will by my last post on this too since I do agree with Mike, this guy is getting far too much attention.

Joe, thanks for the full sized frames. They're here for anyone to see as are many others. Of course you may be accused of doctoring these somehow. :) However it's pretty obvious that the quality is there.

The point is, as I and others have stated before, one of the poorest ways to determine the quality of camera A vs camera B is to use frame grabs. They simply don't do any justice to the full motion video. There are sufficient independent reviews on this camera, resolution tests, sufficient native m2t clips and more than enough user testimonials (some by owners of far more expensive HDV cams that have a solid reference point), to underscore the amazing quality of this unit.

This entire discussion began when I responded to this individual's assertion that the HV20's output was 'soft'. Anyone that owns the camera knows how comical that is. I shot some footage on Saturday at an airshow and the quality was simply stunning. Anyone that would have called that footage 'soft', viewed on a 50" Fujitsu plasma, would have needed emergency treatment at their local opthamologist.

Would I use this camera professionally? Of course not, there isn't enough adjustment flexibility and I wouldn't have the guts to show up at a paid job with a camera of this size. However, does its output compare very favorably to far far more expensive HD cameras in many conditions? You betcha. In the end, isn't that what it's all about? ;)

As you wish, Mike. I agree. This thing has pretty much run its course.

regards,

-gb-