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Bob Ohlemann August 30th, 2013 09:39 AM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
On the "CH2 Input" screen you need to change the input to "INPUT 2". I think that will take care of it.

Bob

Derek Craig August 30th, 2013 09:54 AM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
I was wondering that Bob. Thank you. I am sitting at my work computer and do not have the camera with me. I was re-reading the manual for the 20th time and I think that setting you mentioned might be the error of my ways. Going to look at it later tonight.

Martin Cowan September 5th, 2013 06:28 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
We have had our XA25 now for just over a month and last week the whole camera crashed. In so much as whilst recording the camera functions failed, you couldn't even switch it off. So its gone back to Canon and the dealer here in New Zealand gave us a full refund.

Now before the "crash" there were some issues with the lens. When zoomed in over 70% there were very noticeable chromatic aberrations when the subject was against a high contrast. It is worth pointing out that when shooting under the same conditions with our XA10, ther were no chromatic aberrations, in fact the image was excellent.

So if all you folk out there with either a XA20 or a 25 want to carry out some tests, then I will know it was just our camera that was faulty from the outset. Shame.

Tim Akin September 6th, 2013 05:58 AM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
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I haven't noticed chromatic aberrations but haven't been looking for it either. What I have noticed is vignetting in the top right and left corners when zoomed in.

Here's a frame grab of it.

J.T. Price September 6th, 2013 02:21 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
I've had that to but it is only some of the time. The closest I've come to pinpointing when this occurs (to the extent it is that obvious) is when the power IS is operating (as opposed to the dynamic IS).

J.T. Price September 6th, 2013 02:22 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
I have not noticed any CA, just the vignetting under some conditions.

Tim Akin September 6th, 2013 03:24 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
Yeah, it's weird. In the video clip that the frame grab came from, the vignetting would come and go moving from the corners inward to the point it is in the picture. Not sure if this only shows up in bright situations or not, will have to do some more testing.

Steven Ansell September 6th, 2013 11:48 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
You will see lots of purple fringing in high contrast images (such as leaves backlit against an overexposed source). It seems to be present in all images, but very noticeable when zoomed in. It can be minimized by some settings however, such as a small aperture and stuff like that. I'm not sure that this actually chromatic aberration though, it may be sensor blooming or birefringence from the microlenses on the Beyer filter, which kind of makes sense since you usually see it at a green/white boundary.

The reason it is more obvious now than with earlier cameras is probably a combination of the 20X zoom in junction with the new sensor. They have probably tried to get clever boosting sensitivity, and it has had an unintended consequence.

There is some real chromatic aberration at high zoom, where you will see slight ghosting in *some* places, so there are the two effects at play.

The vignetting I have only noticed when zoomed all the way out on a shaky camera. It doesn't seem to do it on a tripod. Since the vignetting "shakes" I suspect it is due to motion in the camera and adjustments by the stabilization system.

Michael DiLieto September 21st, 2013 02:54 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
I have a very odd question. I am looking to video blog from a studio setting with perfect lighting scenario and then post to a video site in a compressed format. So features and light quality aren't an issue with the camera. I am strictly talking end result video quality in a comparison of two cameras.

A Canon XA10 for about $1200.00 used on Ebay, or a Sony DSR 500ws SD camera for the same money.

I am wondering what an HD camera with a single cmos sensor compares to a (3) 1/2 chip SD camera with a good lens once compressed for online video whether it be Youtube, Vimeo, or the likes.

Don Palomaki September 22nd, 2013 06:47 AM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
Some things to consider. The SD camera recordings are limited to 720x480 pixels output resolution- your first significant limitation, it is huge compared to the XA10, and it is a tape-based system. Its analog output claims somewhat higher resolution but then you would need a separate analog capture capability, or IEEE1394 on the computer. The camera came out in 1999 -. is service and support still reasonably available?

With full control over lighting, many of the issues with lower end camcorders are much less of an issues. And you can easily take the XA10 to shot HD video for other purposes when you like.

Jeremy McKay September 24th, 2013 06:41 AM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
I have noticed some CA (or CA like effect) down the beach on an overexposed image, at max zoom. It was most noticeable on the left/right edges of the shot.

I haven't shot too much to nail it down, but it initially had me rather disenchanted. On reviewing other clips from that day, it seems the over exposed shots caused it to appear. Needs more investigation me thinks.

Don Palomaki September 24th, 2013 11:28 AM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
Was the ND enabled, or was it stopped down to f/8?

Lou Bruno September 25th, 2013 06:52 AM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
I have the Canon HF G30 and I notice the vignetting in high contrast. I used the camera at an air show and noticed when a plane was fling against the bright sky, I observed the issue.


Bob Ohlemann December 3rd, 2013 05:01 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
I didn't see a point in starting a new thread but, I wanted to give a quick update. I purchased a VariZoom Stealth from B&H and it arrived today.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/240135-REG/VariZoom_VZ_STEALTH_VZ_STEALTH_Zoom_Controller.html

It works really nicely with the XA20. All functions on the controller work on the camera. The zoom control is super sweet! This is going to make my life so much easier the next time I shoot a four-day horse training clinic.

Bob

Alan Fitch December 3rd, 2013 06:43 PM

Re: XA-20 is a fine camera
 
The Libec also works very well for zoom and record (no remote focus), and is currently on sale for under $83:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/361366-REG/Libec_ZC_3DV.html
- Alan


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