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Robert John February 14th, 2012 05:00 PM

FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/suppor...ersAndSoftware

Choose Drivers & Software


Choose Mac OS X v10.7 download File Name: xpfm-2-0-0-4-8l.dmg.gz


Canon XF Plugin for Final Cut Pro X 2.0 is plug-in software for loading movie clips captured by compatible camcorders to Final Cut Pro X made by Apple Inc.

Matt Ford February 14th, 2012 05:07 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
About time.. Good news!

Dan Conroy February 14th, 2012 10:57 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Looks like it will only run on Mac OS 10.7 LION, and not 10.6 SNOW Leopard ... anyone else concur?

Robert John February 15th, 2012 12:29 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Actually Robert Rogoz over on the Canon XF Vimeo forum used this trick to make it run on Snow Leopard

If you are on 10.6.8 this is what you need to do:

You have to temporarily change you system version number to 10.7.2 in order to install the plugin.

Go to HD:/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist

Copy the file to the Desktop

Open the original with a text editor and change the string value of 'ProductVersion' and 'ProductUserVisibleVersion' to '10.7.2'.

Save & Overwrite.

Install the plugin

Move back the original SystemVersion.plist from the Desktop

Mark Dobson February 15th, 2012 06:59 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
I've tried it and it does work . . . . bit buggy and . . .

Very basic plugin with no control over quality of ingest codec.

Brings it in as a 422 file.

I'm disappointed and am going to stick to the FCP7 log and transfer option as it gives me control over quality, ability to rename clips before ingesting and total control over which folder the files go into.

Dan Conroy February 15th, 2012 12:00 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Hello Mark-

I was wondering which whether you can import natively and avoid pro-res import. If not, do you at least get to select which type of of pro-res quality to import?

Thanks,

Dan

Robert John February 15th, 2012 12:12 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Hi Dan,

In FCP 7 with the Canon plugin you have a choice to import native MXF or ProRes. The canon plugin for FCP X doesn't give you a choice. I think it just brings it in ProRes.

Larry Cohen February 15th, 2012 12:23 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Hi everyone,
I've already called Canon support - they're going to get back to me - but perhaps someone here will "know"!
I have a MacBook Pro )1 year old) with the latest LION. Also use FCPro 7 to Log & Transfer. But we then import that into FCP X 10.0.3 (latest version). In my MacBook ri, I have 2 hard drives - an SSD boot drive (128 gig) and a Terabyte rive which we have where the DVD optical drive once was. We have about 5 Projects/Events on those drives. Everything works perfectly for the last month.
Last nite I downloaded the proper driver as stated below - everything installed perfectly - BUT NOW . . . FCPro X does not see the 2nd TB drive. FCP X opens and sees one project we have on the SSD (main) drive - but does not see any data on the TB drive. Our Events and Project folders are there at the root level. So my question is . . . how do I get FCP X to look at the TB drive? Do I need to maybe reimport the 5 projects we currently are working with? Interestingly, as FCP X loads - at first it 'sees' the TB drive, but when it's finished loading . . . all files are BIG RED icons (it doesn't see them on TB). So it kinda does at first, but then loses data files on our 2nd drive. Anybody have any thoughts on this?
If things don't work - anybody know how to "uninstall" the new Canon driver? (And yes, our drives are clones, but we're looking at moving 600 gig to replace everything - don't really want to do that if I can uninstall plugin to go back like before - if we can't solve this.
I'l report back with what Canon says in case anyone else has the same issue?
Thanks,
Larry

Larry Cohen February 15th, 2012 12:25 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Robert, I just read your post. We import Natively from the XF300 - are you saying the plugin doesn't allow that? Come ON, Canon???

But maybe it does!

Robert John February 15th, 2012 01:05 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
There are no options for importing native like in FCP 7. I could be wrong, but from what I learned, FCP X converts everything to ProRes. You can export with a few different codecs. Also it is not log and transfer like in FCP 7. I had to click import from camera. I save everything from my cards as disk images with the file structure intact. So when I double click my image file it opens and reads just like if coming from a card reader.

Mike Ayotte February 15th, 2012 03:08 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Larry
I'm not a MAC user but you must have a list of installed programs ,go there & uninstall it.In my Windows program list all the Canon Plugins are there as well as the Canon Utility.

Mark Moreve February 15th, 2012 05:34 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
I've tried the "workaround" mentioned above but my system keeps telling me I can't save this or I dont have permission to save.
WHY WHY WHY couldn't they have released the plugin to work with both snow leopard & Lion. I just don't get it.

Robert John February 15th, 2012 06:08 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Mark,

Try contacting Robert Rogoz over at The Canon XF user group on Vimeo.

Canon XF Video on Vimeo

He seems to have it working and maybe he can help you. Also FCP X and OSX 10.7 are 64bit. OSX 10.6 is 32bit. That probably has a lot to do with it.

Or just upgrade to Lion it is cheap and runs great on my Macbook Pro 2.6 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

David Dixon February 16th, 2012 08:14 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
I thought this didn't sound right (the part about only importing as prores), so I just tried it. I'm running Lion 10.7.3 and FCP X 10.0.3 and have an XF100.

I just turned off Transcoding in Final Cut's Preferences Import pane, plugged my CF card into a card reader, Camera Import fired up, and I could see all my clips. With Transcoding turned off, the clips are imported as Native. It doesn't list them as XDCAM like FCP 7 used to, but the Info pane in the Inspector lists the video as Canon XF 422 50Mbps 720P59.94, Linear PCM (I shot at 720p60). ProRes clips are listed as Apple ProRes 422, Linear PCM in the Info pane.

I just imported a 27 second clip, but it's obviously not converting the footage - the import was virtually instantaneous. (2008 Mac Pro 8-core 2.8, 14GB ram)

The cool part? The import window works just like it did in FCP 7 - you can preview clips, then set in and out points and import just portions of a clip. Perfect!

Robert John February 16th, 2012 11:29 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Glad David figured out that turning off create optimize media in preferences lets you import your footage native. I was wrong in thinking that everything was converted to ProRes. Sorry for any misinformation.

Matt Ford February 18th, 2012 08:32 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Robert.. You have to buy everyone a beer!

Nigel Barker February 19th, 2012 03:29 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert John (Post 1715464)
Glad David figured out that turning off create optimize media in preferences lets you import your footage native. I was wrong in thinking that everything was converted to ProRes. Sorry for any misinformation.

The same option is there in iMovie except that there it's all converted to AIC rather than ProRes.

Martin Koch February 19th, 2012 09:03 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Has anyone actually produced a ProRes file using the Canon XF plugin for FCP X? Because no matter if Create optimized media is checked in the Preferences or not footage is always brought in as Apple XDCAM HD422.

The footage of the XF100/5 or 300/5 is already optimized to edit natively in FCP X just as Apple promises here: Apple - Final Cut Pro X - System Requirements and Tech Specs
under Supported Formats and I/O, Native editing4 support for: Canon XF MPEG-2; ingest supported with additional software.

No need to transcode to ProRes.
Look for yourself. Right-click a clip thumbnail in the Events browser and choose Reveal in Finder. Open in QuickTime and hit cmd i

David Dixon February 22nd, 2012 04:23 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
The plot thickens.

Yes, when I import with the XF plugin, even with the transcoding turned off in Prefs, I get a file that is identified as Canon XF 422, etc.in the FCP X Inspector pane and in the Finder. Those ProRes files I was testing earlier had been imported by FCP 7.

However, a bigger problem that I see is, even if you've imported Native, once you go to create a new Project, you can tell it to base the Project Properties on the first video clip, thereby getting around the problem with using native clips, but....

In that same Project Properities box for setting up a New Project, you have to also specify Audio and Render settings, but the only choices are ProRes4444, ProRes422, ProRes422 HQ, or Uncompressed 10-bit 422. I'm out of my depth here. Does this mean that we still have to end up in ProRes after all, or does Uncompressed just mean it renders the footage back to the native format?

And, we still don't really know if choosing ProRes for import actually gives us that or not. I don't have a problem with ProRes, but figured, why convert if you didn't have to. And if we import Native, will any action that requires rendering have long render times due to also converting it to ProRes?

I haven't had time to test this more yet - anybody have an explanation of what's going on?

Mark Moreve March 7th, 2012 04:25 AM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
Can you tell me if this is right? I have osx lion fcpx10.0.3 & have downloaded the canon .mxf to fcpx plug in. I shot some footage yesterday on my c300 and on my xf305 & I'm now trying to edit multicam in fcpx. The problem is I have loaded my footage from yesterdays shoot to a Gtech firewire 800 drive & when I try to import into fcpx via File, import files FCPX says:

"None of the selected files or folders can be imported. Change the selection and try again."

I can load the clips in from the card directly but this is not the way I work. I usually back up cards on location and then import them from a drive rather than from the cards as after the cards have have been backed up I usually need to use them again & initialize them. Basically does this mean you can't import .mxf files from a hard drive you have to use the original CF cards?
Thanks
Mark

David Dixon March 7th, 2012 10:33 PM

Re: FCP X Plugin from Canon is here
 
You can definitely import from either a hard drive or a card reader - I've done both. I assume you can also import directly from the camera, but have not tried that.

It sounds like either you didn't copy the full folder structure to your drive from the card, or you're pointing the Import function to the actual clips rather than the top level of the folder structure.

I can't tell you exactly how to do this, because I use the Canon XF Utility to create on-disk backups of my compact flash cards, but here's what I do:

Rather than Import Files, I use Import From Camera, then click Open Archive, then navigate to the top level of each card backup - one level above the Contents folder. Then I either import all of the clips, or take time to go through and set in/out points and just import what I want.

There are probably other ways to do this, but this works for me. So, again, just make sure that you are backing up the full folder structure and then pointing to that top level for importing.

I hope this helps.

And, in reference to my earlier native vs. prores post - I have no definitive answer. After some experimenting with XF footage, and also with some third party Motion templates I've added to FCP X, it seems to me like FCP X is just happier with prores rather than native footage from the XFs. I felt that native footage in FCP7 worked as well as prores, but for now I've given up on that and am letting FCP X transcode to prores upon import. I see no difference in the quality, so am not willing to spend further time testing.


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