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-   -   Is downconversion not an official feature? (https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xh-series-hdv-camcorders/102830-downconversion-not-official-feature.html)

Henry Posner September 5th, 2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Spinler (Post 739113)
I just called B&H to purchase an XH-A1. But the individual told me there is no downconversion feature in the camera. He said the v1u does this but the Canon does not. I have to either record SD or HD. I could of course downconvert in the computer he told me.

Confused by what I'm reading here vs what B&H said, I called Canon and they told me no such feature exists as well. Am I missing something? Anyone have this experience? I looked through other threads with no luck.

I am sorry for the inaccuracy. We make serious efforts to make sure all our sales associates are familiar with every product in the genres they're responsible for selling, but we do rely on info from manufacturers as well as in-person product training. I apologize for the inaccuracy.

Henry Posner September 5th, 2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pryor (Post 739154)
One basic rule of dealing with audiovisual equipment salesmen: Never believe a word they say. I've been lied to by more than one local pro dealer in this area. (Although, as I said earlier, I've been very favorably impressed by Zotz and Tapeworks Texas.) When somebody pushes one brand over another and you find out there's some innacuracy there...keep in mind that there may be different commission structures in the company, ie., he may get a better commission for selling a Sony camera. As they used to say on "X-Files"...Trust No One.

Speaking only for B&H -- our sales associates are NOT paid by commission at all. We prefer a sales associate recommend items best suited for the customer, not for the sales associate's pay envelope. In this case, a sales associate made an honest error, which we regret, but no one here lied, or lies.

Ben Spinler September 5th, 2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry Posner (Post 739595)
I am sorry for the inaccuracy. We make serious efforts to make sure all our sales associates are familiar with every product in the genres they're responsible for selling, but we do rely on info from manufacturers as well as in-person product training. I apologize for the inaccuracy.

Henry - thanks for taking the time to apologize. I wasn't expecting a full blown apology. No problem - I've received great advice and help from B&H in the past and that's why I ended up purchasing it from your store anyway. It's hard to expect B&H to answer a question differently than the manufacturer answered it. Canon told me the same thing. I make mistakes too.

I appreciated receiving a follow up call from B&H today just to let me know everything was in stock and I would have it Friday. I'll be purchasing from B&H again in the future.

Ben Spinler September 5th, 2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pryor (Post 739354)
Ben--congrats! You'll love it.

First thing: Set it up on a tripod, make a pot of coffee (or open a 2 litre bottle of Pepsi, or whatever your thing is, booze is not a good idea at this point), and spend some quality time with the manual. I found it nice to have the downloaded version on my iBook...don't need a free hand to keep it open.

Bogdan and Bill - thanks for the heads up on the owner's manual and the OIS - I suppose the manual will join Car & Driver and the latest B&H catalog in the bathroom. Is this camera much more complex than the Xl2?

Jack Walker September 5th, 2007 11:34 AM

I have received excellent advice from B&H several times, in a couple of them advice that actually saved me money. They have been very good pointing me to preferred products, telling me why, and pointing out things I may not have been aware of.

Ben Spinler September 7th, 2007 10:19 PM

Got my XH-A1 tonight - had a family gathering so I couldn't play with it - I might do some shooting tomorrow. I could smell that new car smell when I opened it - intoxicating.

Manuel Hernandez-Stumpfhauser October 18th, 2007 01:58 PM

Hello Ben,

one question, could you record in HDV with your camera and then capture with firewire in SD (720X480) with Premiere Pro 2?

thanks

Ben Spinler October 18th, 2007 02:23 PM

Manuel,

I had problems on every level getting downconversion done with PP2. First I couldn't get the incamera downconversion to work (and still can't - the feature stays grayed out no matter what I do) and then I decided to try to capture HDV and got sound but no video.

After reading some obscure forum post I found someone who found that if they reset the in-camera settings while hooked to PP2 it made things start recording. Sure enough it worked for me then to record HDV - I had to do the downconversion with PP2 in the computer - it wasn't the best. I think I've heard somewhere around here there is a downconversion utility - I don't know what it's called though.

I've gone to using DV 16:9 with the A1 alot since I use it in conjunction with my XL2. I'm hoping the upgrades to CS3 make a difference when I can afford it.

Not sure if I answered your question or not.

Bill Busby October 18th, 2007 03:13 PM

Ben, I don't know if you've done this already because you don't mention anything in the "I've tried everything" statement... but what you have to do for the downconvert to work is disconnect the firewire cable from the A1, then in the menu select downconversion - ON, letterboxed - ON (if you want that), & then reconnect the firewire cable to the A1.

Bill

Ben Spinler October 18th, 2007 03:25 PM

Thanks Bill - I think I did that. Does the camera need to stay on in this process? I always shut it off before unplugging the firewire for fear of frying the firewire port. I read somewhere this was good practice. Is this so?

thanks again for the advice.

Bill Busby October 18th, 2007 03:37 PM

I believe it has to stay powered. I can't fully recall but I think I remember when I 1st tried several attempts, I was turning it off before disconnecting & I THINK it didn't hold the settings. I could be wrong though. Try is & see. If you come to the conclusion it needs to stay powered, then just be carefull when re-connecting & say a prayer before so :)

Bill

Roger Lee October 18th, 2007 03:44 PM

Hello Ben,

I'm from Fergus Falls, MN....a bit of a distance from you. I just ordered my A-1.

Perhaps we could meet and chat sometime?

Regards,

Rog Lee

Ben Spinler October 19th, 2007 01:34 PM

Bill thanks for the tip - I'm nervous to give that try - but it may be worth it. I was always shutting it down.

Roger - nice to see a fellow Minnesota resident on the forum. I'd be glad to meet. Send me an email sometime. Congratulations on the A1!

Andre Tira October 24th, 2007 07:36 PM

downconvert from camera to camera?
 
I shot some footage on miniDV in my a1 in HD but I want to transfer it to a SD miniDV. Can I accomplish this with my a1 and hv20? And if yes, how so?

Juni Zhao October 24th, 2007 07:51 PM

I never did it myself, but it should work if you connect 2 cameras with a firewire cable and set the A1 in VCR mode with downconversion on and the other DV camera at VCR as well, one play and one record.....


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