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Bill Pryor May 28th, 2008 08:42 AM

Your point is very good and valid, and I think most of us try to do that most of the time. I haven't had any of that artifacting problem some talk about, and I've shot waves in the water, trees blowing in the breeze, kids riding around on bicycles, etc. The only things I've shot that have been projected on a big theater screen are mainly interviews, and they look great. I may check out some of this footage with more and faster motion on a big screen to see what it looks like under theatrical projection conditions.

Matt OBrien May 30th, 2008 12:10 PM

I would love to see footage of these artifacts. I've never had any pixelation or artifact problems with my A1. Unless the scene is improperly lit, I don't have any complaints. I understand HDV is limited, but so is my budget and I accept these limits. With price limitations you must accept compromises. If you don't want to compromise with imagine quality, you better not have budget restrictions. If you don't have budget restrictions build a Spielberg Ranch...

Just my two cents.

Daniel Browning May 30th, 2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt OBrien (Post 885795)
I would love to see footage of these artifacts.

To really illustrate the artifacts correctly, one must shoot the same footage with a comparison codec and Canon's compression simultaneously. Anyone with a AJA IO HD and a G1 could do it. Seeing the footage side-by-side removes as much subjectivity as possible.

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Originally Posted by Matt OBrien (Post 885795)
I've never had any pixelation or artifact problems with my A1.

That's all that matters. It's all a sliding scale of circumstance and subjective preference. For some people and source material, 1 Mbps quicktime HD h.264 is good enough. For most of the viewing public, 8 Mbps Satellite HD is fine. For you, 25 Mbps HDV is sufficient. Others require 144 Mbps HDCAM.

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Originally Posted by Matt OBrien (Post 885795)
I understand HDV is limited, but so is my budget and I accept these limits. With price limitations you must accept compromises.

I don't think anyone would argue with you there. I really dislike the many image quality compromises in my XH-A1, but it's the most I can afford, so I have to accept that. Until Scarlet is out, that is. :-)

Jerome Marot June 1st, 2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt OBrien (Post 885795)
I would love to see footage of these artifacts.

It is fairly easy to film subjects which will show the artifacts. Take your camera and go outside by daylight. Film trees moving in the wind. Zoom in and out slowly.

When the leaves have a certain size (not too big and not too small), the picture breaks down and the leaves look unnatural.

You will need a full HD screen to see the HDV artifacts.

Alex Plank June 17th, 2008 04:41 PM

Larry, I see you live in Bethesda. If you ever need someone with another A1 in the area, let me know and I may be able to help out.


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