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Janson Williams July 16th, 2008 08:36 AM

fisheye numbers
 
.3x or .55x etc. what do these numbers mean

and is this a pretty decent one for the price, and wht is with the decision to have a flat glass ontop of the curvature one? protection??

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...a_Fisheye.html


thank you

pieces

George Zabetas July 16th, 2008 08:43 AM

hey janson, noticed we posted at the same time so i'll try to answer this.
if what you see regularly is 1, then 2x is like you moved twice in, 3x is three times in etc (on the telephoto side).
when you wanna move back (via glass) so to speak, 0.5x is like you went twice as much back (wider) taking in more scenery. 0.3x is even more. the smaller the number the wider.

Janson Williams July 16th, 2008 08:45 AM

wrd, thanks man, your response was quick, much appreciation!!

Janson Williams July 16th, 2008 08:46 AM

do you use a fisheye? and any thoughts on the one i am looking at?

Tom Hardwick July 16th, 2008 09:04 AM

You have a 10x zoom lens that goes 10 mm to 100 mm (say). If you screw on a 0.5x wide converter you now have a 10x zoom that goes from 5 mm to 50 mm. Similarily if you fit a 0.3x you have a 3 to 30 mm zoom - assuming the converter lenses you fit are full zoom through lenses.

More than likely the 0.3x will be a single element (or cemented doublet) in which case you'll probably end up with a 3 to 15 mm zoom.

As is the name of the game you'll get a wider field of view but at the same time lose some sharpness and often gain some flare and barrel distortion.

Not sure what you mean about the 'flat glass'. can you explain more?

tom.

Janson Williams July 16th, 2008 09:18 AM

thank you very much tom

as per the "flat glass" , if you click on the link, the lens i am interested in purchasing looks as if there is no curvature to it, or the actual fisheye lens is under a protective lens (glass)

Tom Hardwick July 16th, 2008 09:28 AM

You link takes me 186,000 products, so I could be some time finding the fisheye. Very unlikely to be a protective element - much more likely that the front element is flat(ish) with a very deeply curved rear surface. At these sort of focal lengths you want to limit the number of elements used because of huge dof and the problems in hooding and keeping the front element spotless.

George Zabetas July 16th, 2008 09:31 AM

hey janson, actually i dont use a fisheye. i think the xh a1 is wide enough for me. i used to use one on an old elura-2. it helped there.
plus i think for my filmic taste i'd rather shoot people on the telephoto side of the lens. for outdoor scenery i would rather walk as far back as i can or find a better location( if you have the option).

Tom Hardwick July 16th, 2008 09:52 AM

The point about a powerful wide-angle is the way you can direct the viewers attention by utilising the perspective control open to you. The mild wide-angle coverage that comes as part of a camcorder's fixed zoom lens offers little dramatic interest, which is why add-on lenses are so popular.

tom.

Mike Flynn July 16th, 2008 10:46 AM

Janson, I have a Century Optics fisheye and the glass is definitely curved. I think it is .55x but I'm not sure. It is actually the bayonet version for the Canon XL1, and when I got the XH-A1 I discovered the lens actually fits both cameras if you wiggle is just right.

Janson Williams July 16th, 2008 11:10 AM

my bad


LINK IS UPDATED


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...a_Fisheye.html

Tom Hardwick July 16th, 2008 11:52 AM

From the picture it looks as if both surfaces of the lens element are concave, and as barrel distortion correction isn't required, that design should work well.

Janson Williams July 16th, 2008 12:03 PM

thankyou much


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