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Dave Morgan March 16th, 2016 06:43 PM

Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
Has anyone used a HV series with the HDMI output into like a ninja recorder? Just wondering what it would look like. Currently just capturing old tapes with my HV40 But I feel like it could still get certain jobs done. Well also considering its my only camcorder at the moment.

Jeff Pulera March 17th, 2016 07:29 AM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
I have an HV20 that I use with the Ninja 2, works great!

Big quality difference between ProRes 422 (4:2:2 at 150Mbps) and HDV (4:2:0 at 25Mbps). I just shot a stage event with funky lighting and had to do a lot of color correction and it came around very nicely with the ProRes.

I should ask, are you aware of the cheat to disable auto gain? Makes a huge difference in the quality I get when shooting in darker environments. Basically, put camera in "tv60" mode I believe it is, then hold your phone in front of the lens with a white screen displayed. Then with the joystick, turn on manual exposure. Now you control the exposure with the joystick left and right, with no gain being added and get a nice clean picture which can be brightened in post if need be, and there is no noise/grain! The cheap little HV20 will make a nicer image than my Sony FX7 3-chipper that cost 3x as much and is 3x as big!

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Digital Vision

Dave Morgan March 17th, 2016 02:40 PM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
I tried that lol, maybe not doing it right. Is it full 1920x1080 when you use the HDMI?
Thanks

Jeff Pulera March 17th, 2016 02:43 PM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
Yes, the HDMI output (and the Component out for that matter) are full 1920x1080. Only when recording to HDV tape does it squish the image down to 1440x1080.

Thanks

Jeff Pulera March 17th, 2016 02:45 PM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Morgan (Post 1910955)
I tried that lol, maybe not doing it right.
Thanks

I don't have the camera available at the moment, but if I recall there is a switch on right side of camera that can be "P" or "Auto", I think it should be "P" for the gain thing to work.

Will follow up later if I remember to check out my camera at home

Thanks

Colin McDonald March 10th, 2017 04:04 PM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
Can I ask has anyone used a PAL HV40 to output to an external recorder via HDMI?

I would be interested to know what frame rate it outputs - it says "HDMI out 1920 x 1080i" but how does the HDMI output deal with the 25f option (the Canon version of 25p)?

Ian Thomas March 10th, 2017 04:48 PM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
don't know Colin but I have both the hv20/30 and did not use them for a while but have started again you can keep all your new singing and dancing 4k stuff these little gems produce a lovely sharp image which is over looked because they use tape tut tut old hat well I for one think tape is great you have a master copy and there's plenty of tape around

Mark Davidson May 3rd, 2025 04:49 PM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Pulera (Post 1910927)
I have an HV20 that I use with the Ninja 2, works great!

Big quality difference between ProRes 422 (4:2:2 at 150Mbps) and HDV (4:2:0 at 25Mbps). I just shot a stage event with funky lighting and had to do a lot of color correction and it came around very nicely with the ProRes.

I should ask, are you aware of the cheat to disable auto gain? Makes a huge difference in the quality I get when shooting in darker environments. Basically, put camera in "tv60" mode I believe it is, then hold your phone in front of the lens with a white screen displayed. Then with the joystick, turn on manual exposure. Now you control the exposure with the joystick left and right, with no gain being added and get a nice clean picture which can be brightened in post if need be, and there is no noise/grain! The cheap little HV20 will make a nicer image than my Sony FX7 3-chipper that cost 3x as much and is 3x as big!

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Digital Vision

An old post I know, but I'm trying to capture HV 20 or HV30 footage that's on tape and prefer to use a hardware device like the Ninja 2 mentioned in this thread.

I don't know if Jeff was referring to live streaming or if he was able to come out of the camera's HDMI port to the Ninja and capture the tape material.

If anyone has any knowledge on this or any other device or method, please respond. Thank you!

Andrew Smith May 4th, 2025 02:25 AM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
Gosh, I kinda miss Jeff Pulera (also of Matrox RT2000 era fame). It's been a while.

Andrew

Don Palomaki May 22nd, 2025 03:03 PM

Re: Canon HV40 HDMI Out to Recorder
 
Sorry for delayed response: was out of town past few weeks.

Just ran a quick test with my Ninja V and a Canon HV40 set to HDV mode.

Was able to capture live camera HDMI output from the HV40 to a ProRes 422 file

Was able to capture playback footage from a HDV tape via HDMI to a ProRes 422 file
(The HDV ape was shot on in 2009 with a Canon XHA1)

The resulting ProRes 422 file was 1920 x1080 interlaced. Interesting to note that the resulting audio was 4 channel, with the HDMI audio from the tape on channels 3 and 4. The analog audio input record was left enabled causing this. With analog record disabled the embedded audio went to channels 1 and 2.

(FWIW I needed to do a firmware update on the Ninja V, I last used it 2 years ago. The update was easy, took ~10 minutes including download time.)


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