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Greg Boston July 27th, 2006 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan C. King
And that's not really true either considering both the cameras use a 20x HD lens that look to have the same filter diameter of 72mm. Size wise based on the pictures the lens itself looks to be the roughly the same length as the XL-H1, so it's essentially just a static version of the same lens with added iris.

All that said the quailty of this is in the bag, other cameras didn't have predecessors but this one does, there is next to no new technology here.

Aside from possibly lowlight the H1 tell us everything we need to know about the A1 and G1.

The specs on the 20X attached to the XH cameras show it to be a bit wider and less telephoto so it could conceivably give better lowlight performance because as you know, a wider field of view takes in more light. Whether it will be enough to be noticably better than the H1 remains to be seen (sorry for the pun).

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Evan C. King July 28th, 2006 10:21 AM

If it was better (Heath said 6db the H1 can do well no problem, so maybe 9db?) that'd be incredible.

Heath McKnight July 30th, 2006 08:39 AM

Evan,

I saw a very clean image with gain settings of 6db on the Canon XL H1, 3db on the HD100 (JVC) and 12db on the Sony.

heath

Beth Dill July 31st, 2006 09:40 PM

Forgive the digression (post elsewhere if wrong)
 
I have a M.F.A. in film, but my technological knowledge is dated (graduated 6 years ago) and hoped you guys could provide some feedback to a kind of video newbie (writer switched to filmmaker). In light of the aforementioned discussion, if you gurus were to start brand new with the Sony or Canon line, which one would it be? I know to some this is a brand loyality issue, but I'm interested in what will get me the best results (and eventually the most business) in the future. To be specific, I own two VX2100s (bought for their low-light capabilities) and already have potential buyers for both of them. I figured that, if necessary, I could switch over to a GL2 and then plan on adding to the arsenal by selling a kidney in the near future (hoping within a year) in order to do decent multi-camera shoots. In the past I have progressed from Sony after Sony and after reading this thread am now seriously considering switching over to Canon (if only the low light hadn't been an issue I would have been shooting on them a long time ago) and figure this would be the perfect time to do it if I were going to. Any thoughts? And does this question even make sense? I've been editing for the last 10 hours and it doesn't make much sense to me, so please don't yell at me if I'm being unclear :-)

Thank you so much,
Beth

Tony Tibbetts July 31st, 2006 09:56 PM

While I haven't had a chance to use the XL-H1. I am an owner of an XL2. I've gone up to 6db gain on the XL2 and still had satisfactory results.

Heath McKnight August 1st, 2006 07:53 AM

Beth,

Go here and post that question:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=62

heath

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beth Dill
I have a M.F.A. in film, but my technological knowledge is dated (graduated 6 years ago) and hoped you guys could provide some feedback to a kind of video newbie (writer switched to filmmaker). In light of the aforementioned discussion, if you gurus were to start brand new with the Sony or Canon line, which one would it be? I know to some this is a brand loyality issue, but I'm interested in what will get me the best results (and eventually the most business) in the future. To be specific, I own two VX2100s (bought for their low-light capabilities) and already have potential buyers for both of them. I figured that, if necessary, I could switch over to a GL2 and then plan on adding to the arsenal by selling a kidney in the near future (hoping within a year) in order to do decent multi-camera shoots. In the past I have progressed from Sony after Sony and after reading this thread am now seriously considering switching over to Canon (if only the low light hadn't been an issue I would have been shooting on them a long time ago) and figure this would be the perfect time to do it if I were going to. Any thoughts? And does this question even make sense? I've been editing for the last 10 hours and it doesn't make much sense to me, so please don't yell at me if I'm being unclear :-)

Thank you so much,
Beth



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