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Floris van Eck October 8th, 2006 03:22 PM

Canon Frame mode - which NLE's support it?
 
Which NLE's are currently supporting Canon 24F? I have read that the latest update for Final Cut supports it. But what about Xpress Pro, Vegas and Premiere? I am eager to find out.

Philip Williams October 8th, 2006 09:15 PM

Adobe has a 24F preset you can download for Premiere. It allows capture and edit, but no output to tape in 24F.

Don't know about the others...

Chris Hurd October 8th, 2006 10:32 PM

Avid -- not yet. However, Edius from Canopus / Grass Valley was the first NLE to support 24F.

Kaku Ito October 8th, 2006 11:22 PM

Apple Final Cut Pro version 5.2 is working beautifully with Canon 24F for me.

Barlow Elton October 9th, 2006 05:20 PM

Don't forget FCP will actually output 24F natively back to tape. True 24p sequences back to tape.

It's actually FCP 5.1.2 that has 24F support, currently.

Bill Pryor October 9th, 2006 08:18 PM

We just did the 5.1.2 upgrade, and yes, it does support it.

Paul Chiappini October 9th, 2006 10:09 PM

30f?
 
What about 30F ???

Chris Hurd October 9th, 2006 10:12 PM

No 30F support just yet. I'm sure it's coming, but it's just late, like everything else.

Floris van Eck October 10th, 2006 03:06 AM

Ok, can Adobe Premiere / Sony Vegas 24F support expected? I believe Adobe has 24F support but cannot be transported back to tape at this time?

Noel Evans October 13th, 2006 06:31 AM

Gotta love FCP! Sorry dont mean to start a NLE flame war.....Feel sorry for the xl h1 users who had to wait though. But I am also working with a HVX and the update to FCP has made the p2 workflow so much better.

Gene Crucean October 13th, 2006 01:35 PM

Gotta love how the MBP's don't have a pcmcia slot.

Bill Pryor October 13th, 2006 03:22 PM

Noel, how do you handle archiving with P2? In other words, how do you file your "original tapes"? Or, what medium do you use for that purpose, I should ask.

Floris van Eck October 14th, 2006 01:21 AM

Vegas and Premiere?

Robert Kirkpatrick October 14th, 2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barlow Elton
Don't forget FCP will actually output 24F natively back to tape. True 24p sequences back to tape.

Damn, it would be nice if Vegas did this for my Sony Z1. Would love to go mac and FCP, but man, the cost of entry...

Barlow Elton October 14th, 2006 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Kirkpatrick
Damn, it would be nice if Vegas did this for my Sony Z1. Would love to go mac and FCP, but man, the cost of entry...

Get a basic G5 and the software and you're good to go.

Steve Rosen October 14th, 2006 05:57 PM

Unfortunately, G5s are no more.. I have a quad and wanted another one before the "Pro", got online and discovered I've missed the boat... Box stores may still have them (I buy from the Apple Store usually).. but act fast unless you want another year of sorting out growing-pain issues with a new product...

Evan Donn October 14th, 2006 06:08 PM

You can always pick up a refurb, Apple's got them here:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL....0.8.7.1.0.1.1

dual and quad G5 currently available but probably wont last too long.

Rafael Lopes October 22nd, 2006 12:55 AM

If you are a premiere pro guy such as my self, one way to deal with the export to tape situation is to export the final edited file and than play it back from another software that allows export to tape. It sucks but so far it would be the only way. I hope adobe comes up with a solution for this. I export ALL my projects to tape, dvd, and vcd (for different purposes).

Greg Rothschild October 23rd, 2006 09:34 AM

Any idea who/where to ask about Avid 24f support?

Ron Lemming October 24th, 2006 12:57 PM

What about 25F? Which NLEs are currently supporting that?

Floris van Eck January 14th, 2007 12:28 PM

I am still eager to find out if Sony Vegas supports the 24F/25F modes.

Michael Mann January 14th, 2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floris van Eck
I am still eager to find out if Sony Vegas supports the 24F/25F modes.

Floris, strange, that nobody confirmed that before:
Yes, Vegas works just great with 24F, 25F, 30F.

Erik Palm January 18th, 2007 02:27 PM

Final Cut Express?
 
Does it take 24f?

Peter J Alessandria January 21st, 2007 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mann
Floris, strange, that nobody confirmed that before:
Yes, Vegas works just great with 24F, 25F, 30F.

Do I need Vegas 7? (I'm currently using Vegas 5). And am I using 24P normal (2:3 pulldown settings)?

Piotr Wozniacki January 22nd, 2007 09:34 AM

25f workflow: which NLE?
 
Sorry if this was already discussed, but I only just joined this forum: do Vegas or Premiere support the Canon A1's 25f mode, and what is the recommended workflow? I've just captured my first material in 25f, but what template I should be using? In Vegas or Premiere, there's no a 1080/25p template that Edius offers - will I have to get Cineform?

Jack Jenkins January 22nd, 2007 11:34 PM

Will there ever be 24f to tape possibility? or is it a hardware impossibility?

Piotr Wozniacki January 23rd, 2007 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mann
Floris, strange, that nobody confirmed that before:
Yes, Vegas works just great with 24F, 25F, 30F.

Michael, I have Vegas 7.0d, and there's no 1080/25p template!

Kuba Majewski January 23rd, 2007 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki
Sorry if this was already discussed, but I only just joined this forum: do Vegas or Premiere support the Canon A1's 25f mode, and what is the recommended workflow? I've just captured my first material in 25f, but what template I should be using? In Vegas or Premiere, there's no a 1080/25p template that Edius offers - will I have to get Cineform?

Piotr just download an update for Premiere Pro 2.0 and you are good to go.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...jsp?ftpID=3408

Piotr Wozniacki January 23rd, 2007 01:49 PM

Thanks Kuba! This fixes my problem with Premiere, but how about Vegas? Somebody o this board laims it supports 25f as well - perhaps he meant with Cineform plug-in?

Speaking of Aspect: I have my trial period over, and even though I uninstalled the software, Adobe still displays the message from Cineform that my trial is over and I should buy the key. Which I won't, because my Core 2 Quad is fast enough with raw m2ts. How to get rif of it? [sorry for OT]

Chris Hurd January 23rd, 2007 03:03 PM

Piotr -- please post that question in our CineForm forum, I'm sure you'll get an answer there.

John Hewat January 25th, 2007 05:56 AM

Is the 25f function a true 25p output? And presumably it can be edited in a 50i stream in any editing program, right? Or am I wrong?

Michael Mann January 25th, 2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki
Michael, I have Vegas 7.0d, and there's no 1080/25p template!

Piotr, you mean 6.0d, right?
Anyway, you can easily build your own 25p template just by copying the existing 24p template and changing the frame rate.

Brian Ladue January 28th, 2007 02:23 PM

Anyone use Avid Liquid 7 with the A1?


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