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Stephen Sobel December 9th, 2006 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pryor
I like that Kata bag a lot. Hey, where did you order the Sony eyecup, and how much was it?

If you go here and scroll down, there's a snapshot of the Petro bag I got from B&H: http://dvfreelancer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2288

I got the Petrol because it's the smallest one that fits, in overall length. There's only a couple of inches behind the viewfinder. I think I like that Kata better, actually, but I'm into smaller, lighter and faster with this camera. That's why I got the small, lightweight Libec 22 also. I can, in theory, put the camera bag over one shoulder, tripod bag over the other, a Caselight in one hand, and a mini C-stand and mic on fishpole in the other hand and walk into a location and shoot an interview (theory only works if I need one light, which happens more often than you'd think).

Can you post a picture that doesn't require loging into the site?

Bill Pryor December 9th, 2006 03:23 PM

I don't have the photo anymore, sorry. You can go to B&H and find the Petrol with a Z1 in it.

Wade Hanchey December 9th, 2006 08:41 PM

Bill,
The eyecup fits the camcorder very well. I have one concern that I'll need to spend a little time using it to figure out. When I first put it on and looked thru it, it seemed to place my eye to the left, causing the edge of the frame to block some of the viewfinder. I may need to hold my eye on it differently, or possibly trim it a little so it falls right into place naturally. I pretty sure I'm gonna love it though.

Josh Chesarek December 13th, 2006 09:29 PM

Pelican 1510 + 1519 Lid Organizer
 
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I just got my 1510 in and I was able to load up quite a bit of stuff into it. Attached are some photos for anyone who is looking for how much you can get in one of these things. I also got the lid organizer for $20 extra which I have filled with the extras. In the Case is: 2 lapel mics, a hand held, 2 receivers, Extra Batteries for everything, 3 filters, Charger, Firewire Cable, Component Cables, Lens cleaning kit, small earbud headphones and 5 tapes and I still have a little extra room to use.

Ray Bell December 13th, 2006 09:31 PM

How is the lid orginizer held in place...

Josh Chesarek December 13th, 2006 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Bell
How is the lid orginizer held in place...

4 small screws that you "drill" into posts in the case at each corner. The organizer has a rigid back to it so it feels very secure. It also carries the same warranty as the case. The directions also sa you can use velcro but I figure that would fall a lot..

Ray Bell December 13th, 2006 09:39 PM

Thanx for the quick reply... always wanted one just never actually saw one
in the flesh...

I also bought the pelican lock.. its a nice and heavy one...

Josh Chesarek December 13th, 2006 09:43 PM

Yeah, I almost got two of their locks but figured I would be able to pick up a set at the local hardware store when needed.

Anthony Leong December 13th, 2006 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Doyle
Porta Brace has two good options- the DVO-2U if you need a lot of extras and the DVO-1U which is approved as a carry on. Adjustable cradle inside to hold the camera, padded bags, pockets galore and they're throwing in a hard case with the purchase of either one from participating dealers.

www.portabrace.com

I have the Porta Brace DVO-1U and it's a great bag.

Anthony Leong December 13th, 2006 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Hoyt
I picked up my A1 from Tapeworks Texas last week, and the Camrade bag is nice. Came as part of the deal. Their price was also $150 lower than B&H.
Very professional, and everything came in on time and delivered on time.
They even couriered over my EW100 wireless to my office because I was busy. Scott was a big help.

Tapeworks Texas is a great place to shop and ask for Scott who's very friendly and helpful.

Even Solberg December 14th, 2006 09:37 AM

I have a Pelican 1514 that I use for transport of the A1, but it's less than ideal for walking around. Does anyone have any experience with the Lowepro Commerical AW DV bag? I've got a couple of their backpacks, and I like them, so I'm wondering if this could be the right thing for the A1.

http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Shou...ial_AW_DV.aspx

Any thoughts?

Bill Pryor December 14th, 2006 10:06 AM

That looks pretty nice. I've used their still camera bags, and they look well made. This one seems to have more pockets and things than the normal video camera bag, and that's cool. You might want to measure the length and height of your camera, with a mic mounted, to be sure it will fit.

Michael Y Wong December 21st, 2006 01:06 AM

Just picked this up:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

Sony soft case for the FX1.

Fits the XH-A1 fine with all it's accessories + Mic + 20/10 Mic, not to mention I safely also fit my trusty HC1 in there too (but unforunately not enough room to also fit ALL of my HC1 accessories), but I'm not complaining!

Nick Larsen March 19th, 2007 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wade Hanchey (Post 587016)
Here are a couple of pics of the Kata CC-193 carrying the A1. Also picked up one of the Sony eyecups but haven't tried it out yet.

Hi Wade, If you read this, let me know if I'm right as I am trying to decide between the CC-191 and the CC-193 for the A1, and I wanted to know how much extra room would be available in the bag. Do you happen to have more pics of that bag stocked with battery charger, shotgun mic, or other accessories?

Anyone have a photo of the Kata CC-193 or a Kata CC-191 with their XH A1 and filled? I want enough room for some all my accessories (tapes, shotgun mic, charger and cords, battery, filter) but I don't want to tote a huge duffel if the space isn't filled. Thanks

Piotr Wozniacki March 19th, 2007 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Larsen (Post 644104)
Anyone have a photo of the Kata CC-193 or a Kata CC-191 with their XH A1 and filled? I want enough room for some all my accessories (tapes, shotgun mic, charger and cords, battery, filter) but I don't want to tote a huge duffel if the space isn't filled. Thanks

I'd like to second that. Also, there is the Cata Shell-03 model, supposedly stiff due to thermoformed material used:

http://www.kata-bags.com/Item.asp?pi...d=1&ProdLine=1

Does anyone has any experience with that one?

Nick Larsen March 19th, 2007 04:47 PM

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While browsing for pics of the Kata Cases with cams, I found a 191 with an FX1 (about 14.5 inches long). And needless to say, it is extremely cramped. So if you are looking for extra room for accessories, I would definitely go with the 193 over the 191.

Steve Kachocki March 20th, 2007 08:30 AM

ZERO Halliburton - Just a little history
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Pryor (Post 566423)
I prefer bags and have use Portabrace for years. I've also had Pelican and Halliburton (no relation to THAT Halliburton) cases.

Hi Bill,
Actually many years ago they were the same company. Earle Halliburton started the metal company to make cases to drag his gear through the oil fields of Texas--that Halliburton company is one and the same. I did a search and found that in 1952, he sold the aluminum company to Zeroid and the name was changed to ZERO Halliburton. I still love ZERO cases. They are a timeless design and will last forever.

I found that my old Tenba P795 camera bag holds the A1 and all the cables, charger, and tapes very well in a compact easy to carry package. I just hauled the package all over St. Maarten for a week. PANALOOK preset is superb, though BLEACH BYPASS is great for giving the images a nostalgic feel. Would love to go to Cuba and shoot BB.

Steven Dempsey March 20th, 2007 09:09 AM

I use a Promaster backpack for my camera. It accomodates spare batteries, tapes, my external 7" Marshall HD monitor, the camera and various and sundry items like white cards, etc.

Greg Joyce March 20th, 2007 11:27 AM

which Promaster?
 
Hey Steven,

Mind if I ask which model Promaster backpack you use for your XHA1? I like the two Petrol bags at B&H, PCUB-1N-U (for $149) and PWR-HDV ($189), but am straining my budget.

Steven Dempsey March 20th, 2007 12:01 PM

The one I have is no longer made. It belonged to my photographer wife and she gave it to me when I got the A1. An equivalent is this one:

http://www.tamrac.com/ExpeditionBackpacks.htm (Model 5575)

It's about $130

Ken Nelson March 21st, 2007 04:30 AM

Pelican 1560 and 1510
 
Now that you purchased the Pelican 1560 you may want to look at the padded divider set for it. You can stand the camera up with a shotgun mic attached and close the case without any pressure on the camera.

The padded divider set for the 1510 does not work well since they did not make the entire inside velcro so that you could move the divider anywhere you want.

Both divider sets are available from B&H.

Philip Williams March 21st, 2007 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Dempsey (Post 645001)
The one I have is no longer made. It belonged to my photographer wife and she gave it to me when I got the A1. An equivalent is this one:

http://www.tamrac.com/ExpeditionBackpacks.htm (Model 5575)

It's about $130

Those do look pretty nice. Yet, every time I see a backpack configuration I immediately begin to have visions of me falling backwards and smashing a couple thousand bucks worth of gear :)

And don't even get me started when I see those baby back packs!

Nick Larsen March 23rd, 2007 04:43 PM

Kata CC-193
 
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Just got the Kata CC-193 for my XH A1.

Overall Impressions are very good: comfortable handle and strap, plenty of room for accessories. I have the cam, which could be stowed with a shotgun attached, a bunch of tapes, 2 windscreens, shotgun mic, battery, charger and cords, av cables, book, remote, and there is still room a set of wireless receivers and the like.

Other good things, the case is very rigid for a soft case and the dividers on each end keep the camera away from the edges. Also, very nice quality of all materials and construction. And a nice little "seatbelt" for the cam to keep it in place.

Bad things: The dual zipper top doesn't work as smooth as you think it would. I think a single zipper all the way around would have worked better. Also the modular design with movable panels is pretty useless as there is only one possible configuration with the included pieces. However, it XH A1 fits perfectly in the default configuration.

Also, the bag was a bit bigger than expected, but everything is easily accessible and I am very pleased with it for $125 shipped.

Thomas Lundberg March 24th, 2007 01:22 PM

Thank you, Nick. This is exactly what I needed. I was also choosing between the Kata 191 and 193 bags for my A1. How much (dead) space is between the cam handle and the top of the bag?
/Thomas

Nick Larsen March 24th, 2007 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Lundberg (Post 647534)
Thank you, Nick. This is exactly what I needed. I was also choosing between the Kata 191 and 193 bags for my A1. How much (dead) space is between the cam handle and the top of the bag?
/Thomas

I would say about 3 inches of usable space from the handle, right at the middle. However each end tapers down a bit and if you have a shotgun mic, there is about 1.5 inches of clearance from the mic to the inside of the top of the bag. I was also considering the Kata-191, but then I saw a pic of an FX1 in it, almost bursting at the seams without much for accessories (I posted a pic of that on page 4 of this discussion).

If you need any other pics or info, let me know.

Thomas Lundberg March 25th, 2007 06:14 AM

Great, Nick. Thanks for being so helpful. I'm convinced that the 191 is out of the question and that the 193's extra space will be needed.

I believe that the 193 exceeds the limits for aircraft carry-on baggage (which has been one of my concerns). But for that case, it might be convenient anyway to put the non-fragile stuff in the checked baggage and "squeeze" the camera into a separate suitable carry-on bag.

/Thomas

Piotr Wozniacki April 10th, 2007 11:26 AM

I've just got my Kata cc-193 as well, and - while satisfied with the overall design and quality - have one doubt: why is the bottom so soft? In fact, it's softer than the side walls, so that when putting on the floor, you almost feel the camera bumping against it!

Are yours the same, or is mine defective?

Don Palomaki April 11th, 2007 06:54 AM

Per the KATA web site info on the CC-193: "These bags meet the strict new airline regulations for carry-on luggage size. Due to constantly changing airline regulations, please check with your carrier prior to departure."

Rob Hatcher April 11th, 2007 05:53 PM

I just bought the Portabrace CS-DV3. I'm a sucker for portabrace. Wallet feels lighter. I was gonna get the DVO-1 but I always liked the vertical zip entry and it's less likely to get stuff piled on top of it this way.

George Szondy April 15th, 2007 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven Dempsey (Post 645001)
The one I have is no longer made. It belonged to my photographer wife and she gave it to me when I got the A1. An equivalent is this one:

http://www.tamrac.com/ExpeditionBackpacks.htm (Model 5575)

It's about $130

I use exactly the 5575 Model. The xha1 perfecltly fits in it. It is very easy to carry on your back.

Scott Balkum April 15th, 2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Lundberg (Post 647875)
Great, Nick. Thanks for being so helpful. I'm convinced that the 191 is out of the question and that the 193's extra space will be needed.

I believe that the 193 exceeds the limits for aircraft carry-on baggage (which has been one of my concerns). But for that case, it might be convenient anyway to put the non-fragile stuff in the checked baggage and "squeeze" the camera into a separate suitable carry-on bag.

/Thomas

I have the Kata 191 and it fits the XH-A1 like a glove. Now, there is almost no room for accessories but it is the smallest bag that will fit the cam. I can put the camera in it, the Canon wide angle glass, both lens hoods, tapes and that's it.

Jonathan Gentry April 15th, 2007 02:39 PM

Kata Grizzly-3 (CBP-3)
 
I did quite a bit of research on bags yesterday. I wanted someting that would carry my A1 and my digital camera (20D) with several Canon lenses.

I wanted to be able to fit the camera in the bag with the sennheiser mic attached as well as my wireless lav on the side of the cam. My camera size with all these attachments is 18Lx10Hx8W. I didn't want to have to break it down every time I put things away. That means a pretty big bag. I also wanted to be able to carry it as a bag or backpack if I went hiking. And to be able to bring along the tripod. But at the same time I wanted it to be a grab bag for the truck. I already have a Pelican 1450 for travel, and a small Lowepro backpack if I want to go light.

The Kata Grizzly has customizable interior compartments that can be cut to specific sizes to hold lenses, wires, etc.

I looked at Portabrace backpacks and they were my second choice. I just didn't like the layout of the interior and they seemed less customizable.

I settled on the Kata Grizzly-3. This is an expensive option at $480 (BH) but I think it will solve all my needs in one bag. I'll post pictures as soon as I get it to show how the layout is on the inside.

http://www.kata-bags.com/Item.asp?pi...d=1&ProdLine=1
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

It looks like BH only stocks 1. I bought it yesterday and now it shows out of stock. They list it at $550 on the site but if you add it to cart it goes to about $450.00.

-Jonathan

Nate Clarke April 15th, 2007 03:12 PM

I just bought this Petrol case
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

At work we use Portabrace bags with Z1s and since they open like a clamshell they would always hit the gain and whitebalance switches. Part of that is because of the design of the Z1, but I wanted something where the entire top opened up and didn't split apart. This petrol case seems to fit the bill nicely, plus it's quite a bit cheeper than the porta brace. I'm not a big fan of the bright orange, but I guess I'll be able to see what is in there a little easier. It's also got a lot of room for other goodies - like a WA adapter etc.

Eric Weiss April 15th, 2007 05:19 PM

The A1 ia a lot bigger and heavier than I expected.

I have a wonderful Petrol bag that fit my Xl1S AND GL2 as an ideal, single carry-on.

I was expecting to swap out the GL2 for the A1 and I'm SCREWED!

I also carry-on a 20D set up with all my EOS and Video lenses in a LowePro rolling backpack. It's does not fit the A1 either.

Any further case suggestions would be helpful. All of my shoots are always
two or more plane rides away. I need both cams in the cabin in one bag.
I have a feeling I'm SOL.

Adam La Prade April 16th, 2007 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by George Szondy (Post 660461)
I use exactly the 5575 Model. The xha1 perfecltly fits in it. It is very easy to carry on your back.

Hey George, I'm leaning more torward those backpack-style cases. I had a hard briefcase style case for my old Sony A1 and I liked it, but it just seemed too bulky.

I am now looking at this case:

http://www.mekko.net/photobag/c37.html

Seems to be similar to yours, no?

George Szondy April 16th, 2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam La Prade (Post 661287)
Hey George, I'm leaning more torward those backpack-style cases. I had a hard briefcase style case for my old Sony A1 and I liked it, but it just seemed too bulky.

I am now looking at this case:

http://www.mekko.net/photobag/c37.html

Seems to be similar to yours, no?

You should decide yourself. I actually do not have to many accessories to bring with me in the case. (The tripod I use has its own bag)

I recommend not to order any case online! Bring your camera with you and try the bag, if the camera fits or not. The model I have chosen was about the 6th I have tried.
The others were too small, or too big.

Paul Lashmana April 16th, 2007 06:03 PM

Okay, I have this auction-offer on an "old" but official SONY Video8 Pro aluminium box for about 160 euros (+the first ever semi-professional Video 8 camera with 3ccds ccd-v200e). Should I get this or should I spring for a Pelican-type trunk?

Erik Norgaard June 7th, 2007 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Balkum (Post 660591)
I have the Kata 191 and it fits the XH-A1 like a glove. Now, there is almost no room for accessories but it is the smallest bag that will fit the cam. I can put the camera in it, the Canon wide angle glass, both lens hoods, tapes and that's it.

I got the Kata 191, and here's a photo. As you can see, there is not much room left: There is room on the side, but it's tight on the length. The main problem is the eyecup which is at the hight of the fold of the top lid.

Either take off the lens hood or mundle a bit to soften the bag to fit the camera nicely.

On the side I have a filter set from Canon and two cassettes with two tapes in each. I might reconsider what to bring the day I get an external mic.

However, I think this is the ideal bag for gun'n'run style. The only other equipment I have is a tripod, so no need for a larger bag (yet). I think that if I would get a larger bag later, then it would be some wheeled bag that I could fit the 191 into.


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