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Guest July 13th, 2004 12:28 PM

Frame Grabs Please!
Can someone please post some 4:3 and 16:9 frame grabs when available? Thanks!

Rob Lohman July 13th, 2004 12:33 PM

Uncompressed would be sweet.

Mark Grgurev July 13th, 2004 04:26 PM

Simon Beer said he was gonna be posting video this week on www.xl2.co.uk.

Simon Beer July 14th, 2004 06:04 AM

Hi All,

Firstly new photos added on the site at www.xl1s.com/photos.php

Secondly, first frame grab is here: www.xl1s.com/capture/clown.tif (1.2MB)

I'm uploading a 55MB video clip exported out of FCE2, I'll add the URL for that after lunch. This is a dv clip lasting 15sec.

Our techs have been going over the camera with charts, scopes and other stuff I will not beging to pretend I understand. Any techie questions please post and I'll get some answers for you

Apparently, the V & H resolution match in 16:9. Something letting other 16:9 DV cameras down (apparently). One of our chaps said "I'm pleasantly surprised" and the other said it was better than expected.

More coming after lunch.



Charles Papert July 14th, 2004 06:24 AM


Would you kindly ask that wooly chap to stop clowning around and clear the frame for the focus chart. Thank you so much.

Looking forward to the video clip!

Rob Lohman July 14th, 2004 06:58 AM

I'm also wondering if the TIFF (thanks!) is a 16:9 frame and then
exported as letterboxed (ie, downsampled). Can you export it
as a full 720x480 without the letterbox?

First good news, it seems to be side to side! No black "bars"

Charles Papert July 14th, 2004 07:17 AM

The new mounting plate, now--is that actually compatible with the existing VCT 14? And does it appear to have the capability to mount lightweight rods?

Simon Beer July 14th, 2004 07:18 AM

Hi Rob,

I exported directly out of FCE2 which is all I have on my work machine. The black bars must have got added by the program. I'll try FCP later when I'm at home.

The video clip which is exported from Final Cut is www.xl1s.com/capture/clown50i (55 MB QuickTime file, rename to .MOV)

Please download and do with as you see fit, if anyone would like to upload it on there site then please post the url here so that there is another download site.



Chris Hurd July 14th, 2004 07:24 AM

Simon, I'd like to upload it to DV Info Net, although it may not happen until later this evening. Thanks,

Guest July 14th, 2004 07:45 AM

Thanks Simon,

Much appreciated. If possible, can you get a clip captured at 25p? Thanks.

Rob Lohman July 14th, 2004 07:53 AM

I checked the movie out, but QuickTime under Windows displays
it really bad. If you have Pro make sure you enable high-quality
under Movie -> Get Movie Properties.

I checked it out in Vegas after setting the project to PAL 50i,
looks good. But motion was not fluid. Do you remeber at what
shutter speed this was shot? Hmmm, I just converted it to AVI
DV and it played much smoother. That's odd! (You want he AVI
version as well, Chris?)

Just a note to everyone else. For some reason both Microsoft DV
and QuickTime DV default to showing DV footage at 50% quality
(or worse) per default. They probably did this for performance
reasons but it means you cannot judge the footage when watching
it at the default settings (that goes for any DV footage).

I just explained how to change it for QuickTime (if you have Pro).
You don't seem to be able to change this anymore in Windows
Media Player. I will hunt around a bit to see if I can locate it.

This all for PC users.

Rob Lohman July 14th, 2004 08:02 AM

For anyone who wants to verify this under Windows Media Player.
Go start an AVI DV and make sure View -> Zoom -> 100% is set.

You should see your movie at 50% resolution or at least a lot
smaller than full DV even if you've selected 100%! That's what
I am talking about. QuickTime player does show it at full
resolution, just looks very bad (see fix above).

I found the fix for Windows Media Player:

Go to Tools -> Options -> Performance
Go to Advanced and then make sure digital video slider is set
all the way to LARGE (right side). Then OK your way out of all
the screens and CLOSE WMP!!!!

Restart the player and watch the DV file. Ahhh, full resolution!

Guest July 14th, 2004 08:03 AM

Yes, definitely must watch at high quality as far as Quicktime goes. I'd like to see a full 16:9 resolution progressive clip. I think this one of the clown is 4:3 50i with faux letterbox.

Simon Beer July 14th, 2004 08:13 AM

Right then,

www.xl1s.com/capture/clown.tif - sorted, I had FCE set to 4:3, reuploaded.

www.xl1s.com/capture/clown50i - reuploading after capturing in 16:9

I have a 25p shot that I'll upload tommorow, I'm almost out of webspace at the moment on this domain.



Ed Smith July 14th, 2004 08:24 AM


You are a star... Just downloading them now.

It's Great to see that the UK are the first (that I know of) that acturally have pics and movies from the camera :)


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