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David Lach September 15th, 2004 10:39 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bill Ravens : no, I'm suggesting that we use these lenses on small CCD blocks, 1/3 inch or whatever. The problem then becomes one of magnification factors to use the 35mm lenses. And the optical adapters or image plane spacing needed to get the magnification factor back close to 1:1. -->>>

That's certainly a big issue. You can already use 35mm still glass on the XL2 with the EF adapter, but your image magnifies 7.2 times. The focal length remains the same, but you'd have to get 7.2 times farther away from your subject to cover the same field of view, which is useless unless you're shooting wildlife.

The only practical way to use 35mm glass on such tiny CCDs right now is the Mini35 adapter which costs around $8000. Of course if Canon could come up with a converter of their own that resolves the magnification issue, simpler and therefore less expensive than the Mini35, that'd be great, but I'm not counting on such a miracle to happen.

Ignacio Rodriguez September 15th, 2004 10:51 AM

> Of course if Canon could come up with a converter of their
> own that resolves the magnification issue, simpler and
> therefore less expensive than the Mini35, that'd be great,
> but I'm not counting on such a miracle to happen.

Or, they could include a simple lens and ground grass right in front of the CCD, so you just plug your EOS photo lens straight into the camara.

The problem is, if they did that, nobody would buy those expensive pro video lenses any more. And since that is the market where Canon makes most of it's money... well, I wouldn't count on that miracle happening either.

Still, this would be a great way for Canon to regain it's leadership in the DV world. If such a wonder could also do HDV encoding, well that could be a Sony FX1 killer, something Canon really needs right now.

Aaron Koolen September 15th, 2004 02:24 PM

Yeah it seems that most people, despite all the "missing" bits from the FX-1 are more interested in that than the Xl2...It's hard to say, as I don't have much faith in Canon's desire to be any sort of leader in the DV world, but I'd almost expect their next cam to come out a LOT sooner than the normal few years between releases. They can't be that stuid can they?....That or do drop out of this market altogether - and sell their designes/patents etc to Panasonic... Wow, wouldn't that stir things up a bit - Canons cool design and Panasonics vision all wrapped together.

Aaron

Ignacio Rodriguez September 15th, 2004 02:29 PM

> Canons cool design and Panasonics vision

Not to mention Pana's DVCPRO50, DVCPROHD and solid state media...

Aaron Koolen September 15th, 2004 02:41 PM

Now you're just being a tease! :)

Aaron


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