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Sebastian Jacome October 15th, 2004 10:46 AM

XL2 and Ipod?
 
I am trying to setup the XL2 to record directly to my 20 gig Ipod. I think it would be extremelly cool and useful. Has anybody done it?


Sebastian

Jeff Donald October 15th, 2004 11:25 AM

Can't be done at this time.

Darren Kelly October 15th, 2004 11:28 AM

Re: XL2 and Ipod?
 
<<<-- Originally posted by Sebastian Jacome : I am trying to setup the XL2 to record directly to my 20 gig Ipod. I think it would be extremelly cool and useful. Has anybody done it?


Sebastian -->>>

How do you propose to do it Sebastian. I think it sounds like an interesting idea

DBK

Sebastian Jacome October 15th, 2004 02:24 PM

Well, I don't know if this is feasible, I just remember reading a thread where somebody suggested recording directly to a firewire harddrive and skipping the tape. If that is possible, the Ipod is a firewire harddrive, and it's battery operated... but I don't know yet if this is possible, direct streaming to the ipod.

Chris Hurd October 15th, 2004 02:43 PM

The iPod wouldn't know what to do with the incoming DV stream. What you want is a FireStore FS4, QuickStream DV 2 or nNovia A2D. These all write edit-ready files to their own built-in drives.

Jeff Donald October 15th, 2004 04:33 PM

FireWire HD's need a controller and at the present time neither FW HD's or iPods have onboard controllers. So, as Chris stated it won't work. iPods do not have high capacity batteries. Under continuous duty the battery will go dead very quickly, probably 15 to 20 minutes of continuous duty at maximum.

Sebastian Jacome October 15th, 2004 05:33 PM

Thanks for the clarification guys. Maybe in the future we'll get there. I remember reading an article a couple of days ago about apple being really upset at toshiba for releasing information about the new 60 gig hard drive that apple had ordered for the new ipod.

It is supposed to be video ready, and have color screen. Maybe not suited yet, but we are getting close.

Sebastian

Peter Jefferson October 15th, 2004 07:53 PM

one thing which hasnt been mentioned is teh bandwidth required to thruput.. basically these microdrive devices (ipod, nomad etc) cant hand 25mb a second. On top of that it will need teh doftware to be able to write a DV AVI2 file AT LEAST.

Ive looked into this (as i have a friend who has hacked his mini ipod and now uses it as a mass storage device and mp3 player..

unfortunately its not posible at the time.. :(

Jeff Donald October 15th, 2004 08:19 PM

iPods are not microdrives. They are a fully compliant FireWire 400 drives. If you power the device by a means other than the internal battery (it has a 6 wire connection) you would have no problem. But you still need a computer to act as controller.

Aaron Shaw October 15th, 2004 08:47 PM

I wonder how hard it would be to design a small (ie several inch wide and long) controller for an Ipod.. may have to try that!

AJ Silverman October 16th, 2004 02:23 AM

Software handling maybe? Apple offers their dev tools free, just ask at the Apple Store.

Jeff Donald October 16th, 2004 06:29 AM

Aaron, you'll also have the problem of a power supply. Cameras use a 4 pin FireWire cable that carries no power, only data. A 6 pin cable carries power and data, but I don't know of any 6 pin cameras. There is only one FireWire connection so you'll need to build some type of hybrid FireWire cable and a power supply.

Aaron Shaw October 16th, 2004 09:13 AM

Thanks for the info Jeff. I'll give it a shot and see how it turns out. I'll post any results I get.

Chris Hurd October 16th, 2004 09:49 AM

There's only one DV camera I'm aware of with a 6-pin FireWire connector, and that's the Sony DSR-250.

Nick Hiltgen October 16th, 2004 09:52 AM

I'm pretty sure that connector runs throught he entire line of the DSR camera's (or at least the 500's and 570's)


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