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Robert J. Wolff February 7th, 2005 07:02 AM

Mike, might I suggest the following:

Step 1: Attach a Samson (or other manufacturer) RF Mike to broomstick w/gaffer's.

Step 2: Make necessary connections to cam.

Step 3: Turn on trans & receiver, and, cam.

Step 4: Shoot!

In 3 years, I have never had a problem. Plus, I can place the transmitter a goodly distance from the cam, if necessary.

Give this method a chance if you can. I think you will like it.

Michael Lopresti February 7th, 2005 09:46 AM

Thanks Rob

cheers
Mike

Eugene Weaver February 9th, 2005 09:17 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Michael Lopresti : ya i just filmed a new short with the azden 2x and well sounded byfar better the stock mic(duh) i should be posting a lil clip for Eugene to check out hopefully sometime soon.

and i would love a Sennheiser but the money thing .. so i'll settle with ok :)


cheers
Mike -->>>

whenever you get to it that will be great. I am about ready to but either the Azden or the Audio Technica AT835b. They are very similarly priced...in fact, here is a comparison between the Azden, AT835b and the Sennheiser, enjoy.

http://www.lafcpug.org/review_shotgun_mic.html

Steve Locke February 9th, 2005 09:35 AM

Michael , You might want to try here as an option to Henry's

http://www.vistek.ca/

Michael Lopresti February 9th, 2005 09:57 AM

Eugene
sorry man im haveing a bit of a hard time here im trying to pack all my crap i move in 3 day and im not even half done yet.




thanks for the link Steve


Cheers Guys

Mike

Michael Lopresti March 22nd, 2005 07:59 PM

Eugene Weaver - Hey man sorry its taken so long for me to get back to you about the Azden Mic sample school isnt giving me time to do anything

but heres a clip from my new short

again sorry about the wait.



www.lusmagh.com/the_ex2.avi




Cheers
Mike

Eugene Weaver March 23rd, 2005 06:55 AM

thanks for the link! Since we last spoke, I bought an Azden 2X as well as well as a boom pole and some other goodies. We shot the first part of our short film this past Saturday which turned out great in a very speedy micro budget sort of way. We shhot the second part next Friday (which is all indoors so I don't have to worry about matching up outside light).

Michael Lopresti March 23rd, 2005 02:10 PM

i made my pole out of a broomstick a sock and ductape LOL

it worked well :)

how did the clip sound to you Eugene?
can you hear the fussy sound (it low)?
any tips on how to get rid of it?

cheers
Mike

Eugene Weaver March 23rd, 2005 02:52 PM

I'll tell ya...I thought it turned out fairly decent. I am sure I will improve with the more footage I shoot with the Azden but for the $200...I'm happy.

I didn't notice a real fuzzy sound. but I guess putting this thing up against the onboard mic, this one blows it away.

Michael Lopresti March 23rd, 2005 03:01 PM

ya forsure

but ya i spent $300 CAD on it and i think it was well worth it


what kind of pole did you buy and how much did you spend on it?

Eugene Weaver March 23rd, 2005 03:12 PM

don't laugh.......I used a golf ball retriever! It worked GREAT! It can extend however far I want it to and all I need to do is slap som e gaffer tape around the mic (which I keep in its shock mount) to the end hole of the golf ball retriever and voila......instant boom pole.

I got it for free from a friend of mine. I'm sure it isn't quite as good as a professional one would be but I figure hey, it's free and it works!

Michael Lopresti March 23rd, 2005 04:11 PM

i need friend to give me free stuff to heh

Charlie Wilkinson March 23rd, 2005 05:00 PM

You might also want to check places like musiciansfriend.com for good prices on audio stuff. No affiliation -- they've just been very good to me. I seem to recall you can get some of the cheaper XLR cables there for like $8 for 25ft. Radio Shack cables will run you about $25/25ft and RS stuff is mediocre grade at best.

As for max length of cable runs, that's where the balanced/XLR stuff shines. A couple of hundred feet should be no problem (other than cable cost ;).

If you really wanted to just extend the on-board mic by 10 feet or so, it should be trivial (and relatively cheap) to extend the cable with standard Radio Shack crap, or make your own. You probably won't find anything with the Canon custom dual plug/jack arrangement, so just extend each with seperate cables. If I recall, you'd need a 1/8" phone stereo extension cable and a 3/32" phone mono extension cable. If you're handy with a soldering iron (or have a good friend who is) it should be pretty easy to cook something up. Note however that this stuff is unbalanced and long runs may result in hum and other noise creeping into your audio. To reduce the likelihood of this, make sure your pair of cables are the same length and they should be taped together.

If you use the broomstick and phone extension cables, please post pics. ;-)

-cw-

Michael Lopresti March 23rd, 2005 05:13 PM

hehe saddly i dont have a pic of it but it worked well

i used 25 ft xlr cable taped it to the broom stick
i use a sock to wrap around the shockmount on the SGM then taped it on a angle so it kinda looked like a V shap

only thing i had to be carful with , well my boom holder had to be carfull with was not to move his hands on the pole while we were shooting. or the mic would pick up a kind of scraching sound

but it worked great and it cost me a old broom handle like 3 ft of ductape and a clean fresh outta the dryer white sock

cheers
Mike

Greg Boston March 24th, 2005 10:17 PM

I recently purchased a nice extendable pole that works much like the golf ball retriever in that it is variable length. Got it at a big home improvement store. It's the long yellow pole for changing light bulbs out of high ceiling fixtures. This thing is awesome other than the bright yellow paint job. Very sturdy and will reach out there a long way. I plan to change out the mediocre hand grip at the base with something more like dirt bike handlebar grips. Will let you know how it works when I am done.

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