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Chris Fritsche October 26th, 2005 02:05 PM

getting the 2.35:1 ration on my XL2
 
Ok I really love the epic frame ratio of film movies. I would like to make my movies like this. I know that in order to do this I will have to cut off the tops and bottoms to achieve the ration not the size.
With that said, I have the XL2 and a nebtec 7" screen. What would the height on the screen be in order to achieve the ratio, so I can tape it off in order to eye frame the shots. Unless I am missing something, if the width is 740 would the height of the film be 315 (740X315), what is this in inches?

Chris Hurd October 27th, 2005 12:26 AM

Why not go all out and add an anamorphic adapter to the front of the lens. Shoot through that in 16:9 mode and you've got 2.35:1 through the glass, if you don't mind framing a spaghetti western in your monitor.

Guest October 27th, 2005 02:18 PM

If you are using Final Cut Pro you can select the Matte Filter in Final Cut Pro and then choose the 2:35:1 option. See were it cuts everything off, then put the marks on your monitor while you have it plugged in via FireWire.

Boyd Ostroff October 27th, 2005 02:56 PM

Well if you just want to mark the screen then measure how wide it is. Then divide that number by 2.35, measure that distance verically and place your tape across the screen. Since you're going to do something non standard I don't think the pixel dimensions matter a whole lot, just use the crop property on the motion tab in the FCP viewer and make it match your tape marks.

The "double anamorphic" trick that Chris describes is interesting and has been discussed a lot here. Hardly anyone has actually done it though. For one thing, what will you do with that footage later? Unless you're going to uprez to HD you'll have to crop it anyway. The only person I know who has actually done this is Martin Munthe; see this old thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=3069

Here are some other related threads:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=18917
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=39732
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=23390
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=22798
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=18905
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=13696

Josh Caldwell October 27th, 2005 05:34 PM

I shoot most of my films with the 2.35:1 framing . What I do is shoot in 16x9 (for the higher resolution) and making sure my monitor is set to 16x9. Then, I plug the camera in to the computer and run a frame with my letterbox on 16x9 footage for the 2.35:1 and then tape it off on the monitor.

A lot of people seem to have a problem with people shooting this way because it's not anamophic...well, even though it's a higher resolution, neither is Super 35 or 35mm. They're essentially shooting in a 1.85:1 mode, and framing it for 2.35:1. It's not true anamorphic.

I prefer it to 16x9 strictly for composition.


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