I told you guys to wait for CANON!
"Canon will be here sooner then later" i said. "Canon is not stupid" i said.... "Canon is in the best position to become the #1 pro-sumer HD camera retailer" i said....
So where's those people who, just a few months ago, were screaming how CANON IS SLOW...and CANON IS LATE....and CANON DOESN'T CARE ABOUT VIDEO, THEY ARE CONCETRATED ON STILL CAMERAS ONLY and CANON WONT DO ANYTHING FOR 3 MORE YEARS and CANON THIS and CANON THAT. *smile* <-- remember these? Oh...here it is... http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...ighlight=canon Chris Hurd... thanks for the awesome photos of the camera from the show. - ShannonRawls.com |
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Well Canon is late to the HDV party.
They came in with style but still a little late. (I myself was hoping for a GL2-ish type HDV camera along with the XL-ish one- Ohhh well) |
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Canon's presentation this morning made the point, that when they introduced the under $1,000 Rebel XT DSLR that they sold more in 3 months than their competitors had sold combined in 5 years. So I hope they try to repeat that with the GL-3. |
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Canon may hit the market before Panasonic does also.
The point is those who were insistent that Canon would be 2007 for HD or HDV were seriously mistaken. |
you do have to be surprised we are sitting here today actually talking about Canon HDV. I thought they would come in much later. Nice to see them beat Panisonic.
But the real question is, has many people held off. I know I have, waited as JVC, SONY had there sort of misses with the early camera, coming closer with their second go around, but something is still missing with all of them. I am liking the sound of the P2 the more I read these posts, but going tapeless adds a lot of cost. 2 years from now, I think it will be great, 200gb ipods used as firestores for 500$. I can't wait to get the definitive word on if you can master a 24p project and have your final output in 24fps. half the broadcaster only deal in 24p HD. If you can't get a clean transfer off of interlaced video, you have to forget half of your market. So for me this is a killer. If you tell me I can use this new canon and go to a firestore at 24fps, then great, but if I have to go to 30i, and then do pull downs, then this camera failed all of us who intend to broadcast HD. Michael |
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Im also fully with you on the 24F thing, but I dont think you should worry. I think this will be just what we hope it to be...and that is 24P in a 1080i stream, not some CF24 crap! Shannon, cheers for your great predictions. I as a long time Canon user lost hope the day they announced the XL2 instead of a HD camera and was slowly forgetting all about Canon...look how wrong I was! |
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Call me when I can buy a GL3 HDV camera with a 1 lux rating for under $4000... |
If you tell me I can use this new canon and go to a firestore at 24fps, then great, but if I have to go to 30i, and then do pull downs, then this camera failed all of us who intend to broadcast HD
Whether it comes out of HD-SDI as 24p or in a 2:3 or 2:3:3:2 pull-down is irrelevant. Because it's uncompressed there will be no loss in quality, futher to that, since you do need a codec solution to record to disk anyway (think HDCAM SR, DVCPRO-HD, HDCAM, etc.) pull-down removal can also be hardware performed to lay down a pure 24p file prior to compression. Cineform has implemented this technology in software with AspectHD 3.1 (to remove the 2:3 pulldown from CF24 files) - and it works like a charm. You never have to waste CPU cycles on pull-down reversal again. -Steve |
I do not think Canon is late at all. Considering there is an actual working model at the show means they have been working on this for a long time. They just chose not to say anything to us goons to get us all wetting our pants and talking for the last 6 months on "What kind of chips will it have?"
While Panasonic and JVC have been nice to give us details it hasn't really done much but get us over excited and waste time on the forums instead of actually working and making money. I figured it was a no brainer that eventually there would be other HDV options in the near future and so I wanted to wait. I am in no hurry and am making just as much money right now if not more since I didn't have to invest in new equipment. I am making a huge move and starting the business all over again in January and by that time there will be a lot of nice options for gear. |
Well, I'm glad Canon came out with SOMETHING at least. But I'm a filmmaker kind of guy, so I'm not too pleased with the choice of HDV, though the SDI output sounds nice. The only problem with that is that I don't have any SDI equipment. Plus the 24F thing is still up in the air in terms of quality, so I think I'll wait to see the HVX200.
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