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Austen Mathieson January 16th, 2008 04:21 PM

Low light setting xl1s
 
What setting do you use in low lighting as I've been shooting in places where there's just no room for additional lighting.

I know there's the built in setting but it doesn't give options like frame and ws or is that just my cam?

Cole McDonald January 16th, 2008 05:15 PM

I shoot with an XL1s in frame mode (aesthetic choice on my part) bump the gain up (you'll get some video noise) a bit, but not all the way if you can avoid it, and crank the iris open. If you still need a little boost, you can set the shutter speed to 1/30 and suffer a smidgen of motion blur to get more light in without sacrificing more image quality.

Austen Mathieson January 16th, 2008 05:51 PM

Thanks for reply, I too only use frame mode, I'm glad they built it that way, I did try it that way but as you say the noise is painful. would the video light attatchment help without making it look too fake? I've been putting off getting one.

Don Palomaki January 17th, 2008 08:27 AM

A wide, low wattage fill light on camera can help a lot, especially for event work. I use 10-20 watts. Much more power and the lighting can become too bright for people, and cause unwanted shadows, etc. in the image.

Whether or not it will help and look OK depends on what you are shooting and your artistic requirements for the project.

Cole McDonald January 17th, 2008 09:45 AM

a small on-camera light may not have enough throw for anything other than interviews close to the camera ( http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...sion/isql.html ) as the light won't noticeably reach past 10 or so feet. Again it depends on how you intend to shoot the event and how much freedom you have in the environment.

A straight on camera light will flatten your subjects, you may want to look at getting a bracket that would let you offset that light from the camera if you decide to go that route.

Don Palomaki January 17th, 2008 12:16 PM

Interviews, dancers, folks at a table, receiving lines, cutting a cake, a toast, lots of stuff goes on within 10 feet of the camcorder.

The fill light is just that, it fills in shadows, and in the process supplements available light to improve white balance, noise performance, etc. Offsetting the light a bit is a better location than directly above the lens. It is no substitute for studio lighting, but can make a big difference in the final product.

Austen Mathieson January 17th, 2008 01:38 PM

Thanks guys that's pretty much what I was thinnking which is why I've put it off for a while.

Ok so would a small (3feet high approx) halogen workman's light with 4 lights on be any good or would halogen be as bad as flourescent?

Cole McDonald January 17th, 2008 02:54 PM

Halogen would probably be intrusive to the event...they throw LOTS of light. I have a 500watt halogen that I can light up my entire front yard with enough to get decent footage with.

what kind of events are you going to be shooting?

Austen Mathieson January 17th, 2008 08:27 PM

Close quarters live music performances for documentary.

Don Palomaki January 18th, 2008 08:20 AM

Most halogens lamps provide a good (if not calibrated) color temperature around 3000 K (give or take). Halogen shop/work lights can provide a low cost source of bright light for informal low budget lighting of sets for hobby work.

As for lighting live music performances, that needs to be worked out with the venue and the performing ensemble. Lighting a performance is a form of performing art, and can add to, or detract from, the audience experience. You may want to start with what ever lighting they normally have in a performance, and increase it until you have enough for your video. That can help preserve the look and feel of the performance for the documentary. Try spend some time at a rehearsal to work out the lighting before the money shoot.

Austen Mathieson January 18th, 2008 09:04 PM

The performance is of the bands one at a time in a small room (20x20feet)

Don Palomaki January 19th, 2008 01:35 PM

Bring good hearing protection with you!

Cole McDonald March 27th, 2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Palomaki (Post 810897)
Bring good hearing protection with you!

Hear, hear!


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