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Joel Guy November 15th, 2004 02:02 PM

Are there any other consequences of removing the lens while the camera is still on? What about with the 14x manual?

I'm not asking so that I can do it. I'm just curious.

Thanks.

Rob Lohman November 16th, 2004 04:35 AM

Joel: yes, it is the same for removing or attaching. This is especially
true if you have a lens with those little electronic pins (not sure
if the 14x has this). But it would be wise to ALWAYS power down
the camera so as to make sure you are not damaging the camera
or the lens!

Joel Guy November 16th, 2004 07:18 AM

Okay, I'll make sure not to ever do that.

It is alright to turn the camera on, without the lens attached though, right? I mean, with the black dust cap on the camera, without a lens, just to check menus, etc, and without the intention of attaching the lens while it is on. ???

Cliff Hepburn November 16th, 2004 08:41 AM

This sounds like a huge design flaw.

Rob Lohman November 16th, 2004 09:26 AM

Cliff: that might be, but with what other removable lens camera's
are you going to change a lens with the camera on? I wouldn't
do it with any, that's just asking for trouble.

Webb Pickersgill January 10th, 2006 01:11 AM

3x Lens broken
 
I'm bumping up this *really* old thread because this just happened to me. Now, I ALWAYS power down my camera before changing lenses because I heard the bad things that could happen. So, I don't know what happened this time.

I was in the same situation, I was firing up the camera for the first shot of a full-weekend shoot, and I got a "check lens" warning on screen. After that, I had no zoom, iris, or focus controls. When the camera would power up, I'd be stuck with whatever the auto-iris would pick for that instant, then it became unadjustable. Luckily there was a rental house that had an extra 3x lens available otherwise we would have been screwed. (Filming in a small motel room with just a 20x and 16x lens just wouldn't have worked)

So, I guess I'll be calling a Canon service center tomorrow. @#$%#@!

Bob Safay January 11th, 2006 11:56 AM

Webb and others, it is not just the lens. You should power down when connecting the XL (or ANY camcorder) to the deck, or even the deck to the computor. You should always power down whenever connecting two peices of electrical equipment. Bob

Greg Drusjack February 22nd, 2006 02:57 PM

Lens Hood for 3X Wide Lens
 
I just purchased a Canon 3x wide angle lens without a lens hood. I thought I checked it online and found it for $30 before I bought the lens. Now that I bought it I can't find any reference anywhere, even on Canon's website, to the hood for the XL 3x wide angle. I'm starting to believe I mistook a hood for an EF lens before...

Anyway, does anyone have a source/link to aquiring the hood or at least a part number before I spend an eternity on the phone with Canon?

Thanks,
Greg

Greg Boston February 22nd, 2006 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Drusjack
I just purchased a Canon 3x wide angle lens without a lens hood. I thought I checked it online and found it for $30 before I bought the lens. Now that I bought it I can't find any reference anywhere, even on Canon's website, to the hood for the XL 3x wide angle. I'm starting to believe I mistook a hood for an EF lens before...

Anyway, does anyone have a source/link to aquiring the hood or at least a part number before I spend an eternity on the phone with Canon?

Thanks,
Greg

I have purchased a replacement hood for the 16x manual lens ($62) directly from Canon. Just call 1-800-OKCANON and they'll get you to the right person.

-gb-

Greg Drusjack February 27th, 2006 07:48 AM

Thanks!
 
I really thought Dealing with this over the pgone would prove to be a hassle. Particularly after wasting so much time trying to find the part online (which usually proves to be a piece of cake). Anyway, I got connected immediately to a parts person and she had the hood ordered and on it's way in a flash!

Real-person phone assistance, a real rarity these days.

Thanks again,
Greg

John Threat March 16th, 2006 08:35 AM

What to Do if Your Canon 3x Lens Breaks
 
The unthinkable happened. A P.A. on a shoot dropped my 3x Lens.
Does anyone know the process of getting your lens serviced?

It was in a protective case, but it dropped from a high distance. The glass isn't cracked and I actually shot with it, but the focus ring is 100% jammed and won't rotate.

How long does it take to turn around a service job on the lens and how much does it usually set you back?

Don Palomaki March 18th, 2006 05:42 AM

No insurance? Call Canon's toll-free number (800-828-4040 last I knew). They will give you details as to how/where to send it for service (probably Jamesburg, NJ, if you are in NY). Turnaround on XL1 is usually reasonably fast, 3-5 days plus shipping, do not have any reports on lenses but probably about the same. Cost will not be cheap, but no doubt less than a new lens.

Frank Bogart May 29th, 2006 02:01 PM

3x wide angle lens by Canon
 
Does the 3x wide angle lens by Canon have the fisheye distortion that you get with some of the cheap adaptors? Could someone post screengrabs somewhere for me to see? And how much wider does it get with the 3x? Like hom much percent? I just want to know because I am seriously thinking of investing! Screengrabs would be really helpful! Just want to avoid the rectilinear distortion of the fisheye lenses and cheap adaptors while getting as wide as possible at the same time! Any answers will be really appreciated! thanks!!!

Chris Hurd May 29th, 2006 02:14 PM

For starters, see http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/articles/article38.php

Richard Grebby August 4th, 2007 02:58 PM

3X Wide Lens and lack of zoom/ DoF
 
I was thinking of getting the canon 3X Wide Lens but then realised that 3x zoom really isnt that much, so if I wanted to get a really good depth of field Im not sure that this lens would do the job.
Am I wrong?

Mike Teutsch August 4th, 2007 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby (Post 723529)
I was thinking of getting the canon 3X Wide Lens but then realised that 3x zoom really isnt that much, so if I wanted to get a really good depth of field Im not sure that this lens would do the job.
Am I wrong?

When you talk about a "really good depth of field" and if you mean a really shallow depth of field, then you are right! You need a long lens for the shallow depth. Back way out and zoom in for that effect.

Don't forget to open the lens up too! Use ND filters to allow you to open it wider. A good lens for shallow depth of field is the 16x manual. AT full zoom, you can open it up further than the stock 16x auto lens. I think it is a stop 1.6, but I'd have to check for sure.

Mike

PS: You will love the lens for close quarter shooting though!

MT

Richard Grebby August 4th, 2007 03:08 PM

im debating whether to get one or get a 16x manual lens.

Also, i know that the XL2 20x lens will work, but will the zoom/focus preset buttons work with the XL1?

oh and thanks for the speedy reply

Mike Teutsch August 4th, 2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby (Post 723531)
im debating whether to get one or get a 16x manual lens.

Also, i know that the XL2 20x lens will work, but will the zoom/focus preset buttons work with the XL1?

oh and thanks for the speedy reply

Sorry, I was adding the 16x manual reply while you were typing.

Mike

Mike Teutsch August 4th, 2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby (Post 723531)
im debating whether to get one or get a 16x manual lens.

Also, i know that the XL2 20x lens will work, but will the zoom/focus preset buttons work with the XL1?

oh and thanks for the speedy reply

And, yes. The 20x works just fine with the XL1s.

OK, just tried the 16x and it opens up to F1.6 under under full zoom. The 20x auto goes only to F3.4. That's a good difference.

Mike

Richard Grebby August 4th, 2007 03:15 PM

hmm, sounds like the 16x is the best option. it also has the macro function too right?

Mike Teutsch August 4th, 2007 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby (Post 723534)
ahh, i'll wait for that then. Do you think its worth getting the 16x then?

Also, what about the cheaper 72mm add on lenses...

The 16x is a great lens! If you add an adapter to another lens, you still will not be able to open up the iris! You will still be stuck with the iris limit of the auto lens.

Not that I agree with them, but many buy the body only kit and get the 16x manual for their primary lens. I still think it is good to have both.

Mike

Richard Grebby August 4th, 2007 03:24 PM

hmm, well I think i'll try and keep my eye open for a x16 manual lens then.
Although it seems they are few and far between here in the UK.

There is also the x14, do you know if there is a lot of difference?

Mike Teutsch August 4th, 2007 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby (Post 723540)
hmm, well I think i'll try and keep my eye open for a x16 manual lens then.
Although it seems they are few and far between here in the UK.

There is also the x14, do you know if there is a lot of difference?

The 14x's were good too, but I don't recall what mine would open up to. The 16x is better I think, plus you can use the zoom as manual or servo. There is a 16x on ebay right now with two days to go. It has one bid at $600.00, and looks really sharp. Both the 3x and the 16x sell for about the same used.

Mike

Mike Teutsch August 4th, 2007 03:39 PM

Link!
 
Here is the link to Chris's lens spec's page. Lots of good info there.

http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/articles/article04.php

Mike


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