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Robert Poulton April 2nd, 2003 11:42 PM

Well. I take the headphones out to a RCA connection to the audio in on the DV bridge. Then I just press record in Premiere or whatever the program is. You also have to have a video source going but just not record it. So far it has worked great. My problem was it not coming in loud enough. It came in very clear and clean. I was having problems with my Lav mic until I figured out how to use it...lol.

It has worked great so far. I have used it on two voice over projects so far and they sound amazing.

Rob:D

Marco Leavitt April 3rd, 2003 12:00 AM

I had seen the DV bridge in ads. Is this a better method than just plugging into a sound card? What does the bridge do?

Robert Poulton April 3rd, 2003 01:58 PM

well It wouldnt be better but I was reciving some noise off of my sound card to my mini disc so I cant use it as an option (more of bad feedback). Otherwise I would. No real difference as far as voice over goes and I wouldnt think it would be to much of a problem otherwise.


Rob:D

Christian Van Horn April 13th, 2003 12:58 PM

How are you importing your recordings?
 
Guys,
Sony doesnt make ANY portable minidiscs that allow digital exporting of material you recorded from a line or mike input. Period. They stopped that feature a couple of years ago. The only work around is a home Minidisc deck with optical or SPDIF outs. There are a few pro Minidisc portables that do, at about 5 times the cost of a 707. Check out the Creative Nomad Jukebox 3 as an alternative. It records WAVs at 44.1 with optical in or 48 with line ins. It allows full exporting of all files. Chris

Paul Tauger April 13th, 2003 01:48 PM

For what its worth, I just completed a project which used both music and ambient sound recorded on a Sharp MT-15 minidisk with a Sony ECM-MS907 stereo microphone (I've recently added a Vivanco EM216 stereo lapel mike to my arsenal, but haven't used it in the field yet). I transferred the audio to my computer by capturing through my sound card.

The results were excellent and, to my ear, listening over my editing bench monitoring speakers, sounded every bit as good as the audio captured directly by my VX2000. Though the purist in me prefers an all-digital transfer solution, analog capture is clearly more than adequte.

Marco Leavitt April 14th, 2003 10:42 AM

Does the Jukebox support Mac? It doesn't look like it does.

Robert Poulton April 14th, 2003 03:48 PM

No it doesn't. I would hope since sony started mini disc that they would at least get on the ball and make it useful. From what I can tell they won't do anything to create a program that can import the files through USB. What a shame look at what they could do if they did. I just wonder if there is another app out there that allows for us to use the USB to import these files?

Rob

Marco Leavitt April 14th, 2003 04:43 PM

The only way I can see to do this is to buy the cheapest minidisc deck off of E-bay that I can find that has digital outputs. Go from there to an M-Audio CO3 (http://www.minidisco.com/co3.html) which strips off the copyright protection and from there to an Edirol UA-1D USB connector (http://www.minidisco.com/ua-1d.html).
This seems like an awful lot of trouble and expense, not to mention having to worry about when Sony is going to introduce a new layer of copyright protection. Sony seems so determined to kill off this technology, it makes me hesitant to invest in any minidisc-only related gear. I'm kind of leaning towards loving the format for what it does well (my NZ10 sounds really good!), and putting up with the analog transfer until I can afford to move up to a different technology altogether, like DAT or harddisk. I'm also kind of looking at the ART DIO, which would serve a double function as an analog/digital converter to the minidisk (at least these units have optical in!), as well as ensuring a clean analog transfer to the computer. At some point, I think I would still be able to use it for whatever new technology comes along. It's 24 bit. I like the looks of the SoundDevices USBpre too, but I wish there was a way to power it without the USB. How am I suppose to make a field recording on another media besides a laptop?

Christian Van Horn April 14th, 2003 07:28 PM

The Nomad Jukebox 3...
 
I'm very sorry, but the NJ3 is currently PC only. It's a shame, as I love mine. The 20Gig version (smallest) records 48 Khz WAVs for 30 hours. Amazing. Just amazing. It's worth gettin' a $100.00 PC just to upload and burn the waves...

Jeff Donald April 14th, 2003 07:39 PM

Marco, did you see this post I made this morning?

Robert Poulton April 14th, 2003 08:56 PM

very cool. It is a shame that sony is destroying their own invention. Anyways PDA audio. Sounds like a very good thing. Soon you will be able to record everything on PDA.


Rob:D

Marco Leavitt April 14th, 2003 09:15 PM

Thanks for pointing out the link. I see Mac users get screwed again. Why doesn't that just figure?

Jeff Donald April 14th, 2003 09:27 PM

Quote:

I see Mac users get screwed again
Well, sort of. You can remove the CF card and copy the digital files to your HD. I do that with my digital still photos now, and it's not too much of a hassle. The Sharp Zaraus runs Linux and OS X has X11 so, it's only a matter of time until someone wrote a program that would do it directly. It might even be in the works.

Robert Poulton April 15th, 2003 04:40 PM

Mac users from what I know dont get screwed. It just seems that they dont know they can run windows OS on their computer. A guy where I work has every OS on his G3 laptop so he can troubleshoot anything that comes along. So its just looking into the proper options. I think it is to bad that most mac users don't know they can do that. Otherwise I would think that you would be happy that you have so many options open to you.

Rob:D

Marco Leavitt April 15th, 2003 05:39 PM

Well, I've heard that people have varying degrees of success with emulations. I've yet to hear of anyone who's been able to run Net MD successfully on a Mac, for instance. But, hey, if it works. I'm all for it.


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