Applicable to Red?
 

David(s),

Just wondering how applicable the first version of the box is to Red.

If I read the specs of the Red One correctly from Red's website, the Red HDMI AND HD-SDI ports will only support 720 x 1280.

Also, I'd like to be able to use this product with both my Z1U and my Red.

I'm guessing I'll need to wait for the analogue version.

-Thor

Hi Thor,

The recorder should have no problem recording from any HDMI source. After all, it's the HDMI spec that that defines the signalling, so devices on both sides should be compatible.

Actually, until you mentioned it, I hadn't thought about using the recorder with Red's HDMI output. But this might be a great way to provide dailies, or even proxy files for cuts editing. Certainly you'll usually want to use the R3D source for the online work.

With the Z1U you'll need a component-to-HDMI converter for our first-gen box.

David Taylor,

The dailies idea is a really good one! I wouldn't have thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense.

I wish the Red HDMI would output 1080. I can think of all kinds of problems that would solve. Maybe a future firmware update?

Good luck with this project. I'm excited to see where it goes, and what it might mean eventually for Red owners.

-Thor

How about something like this to hold it? I just came across the eHolster system and I'm digging the shoulder harness. Too geeky? Maybe, but it even has wire management built in, and it looks like they make custom sizes. Check it out here: http://www.eholster.com/casesystems.html

Also, I want to add my vote for component, sooner rather than later. It would kill me to have to wait for an upgraded version to use with my XH-A1...

BTW, I'm not currently a Cineform user, but this thread has motivated me to look at it more closely and the SOLID would definately make me a believer.

Hi, I pointed this out some days ago:

I guess you missed my post. Anyway, great to see you are now aware of this possibilty for the SOLID.

LB

Oh great.

Now the CF recorder users will be shot at by the police who'll think they are carrying a piece :)

LOL! Only it's really not so funny...

Component in
 

Please component in for all the Canon XH A1 owners like me. And the Sony Z1 owners... Why should we wait for an upgrade?

Speaking as a Z1 guy myself... we have to understand they can only really devote the time and money to designing one at a time, otherwise it's just not smart businesswise, and HDMI does make more sense than component for the first release. I hate that it's true, but it is. :(

Carl

They've announced that this is only the first of a whole line of products. Why do some of you feel neglected that they've omitted a certain feature?

I think they plan to support all of what our suggestions are, that's the whole point of this thread. There will just be different devices for different types of users.

I'm personally all for an all-digital-HDMI-only capture device.
It's really not that small of a niche of camcorders anymore that have (or will have) HDMI.

Ok, im not complaining, just want to use it with my main camera that is a Canon XH A1 (as other many people). If a converter component-HDMI is giving me the same quality as component in directly, alles ist gut.

If not ill have to wait till they sale the dual version.

And please Craig relax, just expressing some opinions and wishes, thats what this forum is for.

I think this looks awesome.

Comments:

The price point at $2k limits its adoption. Personally I'd wait for it to come down to $500 or so, and consider it the ultimate accessory for an HV20 like machine.

Would purchase include Neo/ProspectHD? It seems at 1920x1080 10-bit, Prospect would be a must for any purchaser. If it did, then naturally at $2k, it's a bargain.

-Steve

BTW, whatever the policy ends up being, NeoPlayer is free, so even if you don't get ProspectHD packaged with it, you won't be required to pay for new software to at least edit the footage . . . you'll just have limited non-CineForm export options, and lose a lot of the multi-stream real-time treats that ProspectHD gives Premiere Pro. But I would think on a good machine at least a single stream of high-quality HD with cuts-only will playback in real-time with NeoPlayer.

I think $2,000 for what they are offering is a deal.

Look at the HVR-DR60, it's almost $1,500 and all it does is record highly compressed DV/HDV.

For a device that allows you to record visually lossless video at 10-bits 4:2:2 for under $2,000 is AMAZING. Especially something that portable.

Even if it doesn't come with Prospect. If it did, it would be a STEAL!

Just my 2-cents.

In the current market, there's no doubt that its price point is a steal. The question is: which camera owners do you expect to purchase this?

With an HDMI input this kind of device is very attractive all the way up the market - but it stands to compliment $1k cameras just as well as $5k and up machines.

-Steve