I can't answer that as I am unfamiliar with the Z1.

My thought is that this laptop paired with the Matrox MXO2 Mini might be a good solution for people like me who have the HV series camcorders from Canon and can get 4:2:2 color via the HDMI port and use Cineform software to improve the workflow.

This thread started 2 years ago in November 13th, 2007, 04:29 PM ...
"CineForm HDMI Recorder Concept " still concept ? !

Not quite. No hardware manufacture wanted to build the the prototype we proposed. :(

However, this CineForm recorder will be out in a couple of months (if not sooner.)
cinedeckHD Hardware's done just software to finish.

That's amazing David, and very sad. Too many vested interests out there? I've always had the impression that CineForm quality and workflow has been a thorn in the side of the big players. I do wonder if ProRes would exist at all if it weren't for CineForm...

Confused a little - So Cineform are building a hardware device as well as the cinedeck?


Or are you building just the software for the cinedeck?

CineDeck developer licensed our codec.

We have alway been a 99% software company, and the HMDI recorder project was going to happen the same way. We did have a hardware partner earlier in the project, but they went belly-up. Still open for others. We are still looking for non-custom hardware solution for this, like an Atom based netbook/embedded motherboard -- the performance is not quite there yet (so close though.)

David, thank you for info about CineDeck.

David what sort of specs you after?

Samsung X120 Netbook - Netbooks at Ebuyer

I've commented on the Atom spec's before in this long thread. Over 12-months ago 1.6Ghz dual Atom would encode 1080p at 16-17fps, with 533MHz FSB. The memory bus is faster now and clocks up a bit, but otherwise that haven't change much in a while. The missing feature to Atom setup is a single PCI-Express lane, so we can feed HDMI in without a big hardware effort. If as can get to 20fps with a PCI-E lane, we can do 24p/30i through SSD buffering -- it is really close.

I don't understand this statement at all. The two have nothing to do with each other and use totally different technologies.

ProRES (DCT) and CineForm (Wavelet) are too vary different technologies, but in many case serves the same purpose -- higher quality intermediate. However, Richard is more correct than is publicly known. More generally I think Avid's DNxHD and CineForm, lead Apple to ProRES. This is always a license, buy, or build it yourself decision, ProRES was not created in a vacuum.

Completely understood. I am aware of the DNx/ProRes connection, just couldn't see how to extrapolate that to Cineform, which if my information is correct, predates them both.

Yes, CineForm pre-dates both, and the first is still the best :)

Is this possible Cineform device a online or offline device?

I mean will I be plugging in my camera to the Cineform device and recording directly onto the netbook/nettop device? Will I have a live feed on the netbook so I can use it as a external monitor?

Or will it be a offline device and convert my tapes/mt2 files after I have got them off the camera?

The idea has always been to bypass camera compression recording CineForm directly in a mobile device -- whether that design included monitoring was only a bonus feature not a requirement.