Crash in CS4 w/ Neo Scene
 

Hi everyone,

I downloaded Neo Scene in order to use CS4 Premiere Pro w/ my Canon 5D Mk II footage. I'm able to convert my MOV files into Cineform format (with output frame format set to 24p) via Neo Scene and read the resulting AVI files w/ Windows media player. Unfortunately, I'm unable to import the resulting file into CS4. I'm always getting an error message telling me that the dimensions of the files are too big? Do you have any idea on how to use the Neo Scene generated files? Did I missed something? Thanks,

Regards,

Guillaume

...and After Effect crash before even loading...
 

Do I need to install or unstall something to ensure that CS4 (premiere and after effect) works w/ Neo Scene? Thanks,

Guillaume

I had this same error message. I can't remember how I fixed it.

Search this forum. There is a thread about removing some Cineform files in a couple of directories.

I'm getting the same thing. After Effects CS4 crashes as soon as I drag 'n drop a converted CineForm file into the application.

I didn't even know that Cineform supported CS4.... ;-)

Uninstall any previous version. Manually remove cfhd.dll from C:\windows\systems32 or c:\windows\wow64.. and remove CFHD components from c:\program files\adobe\Common\MediaCore\CS4. Re-download Neo Scene 1.1, it was patched on Sunday. CS4 should work fine.

Thanks but....
 

I can't find the folders you mention (c:\program files\adobe\Common\MediaCore\CS4). I'm running Windows Vista 64bits. Do you mean C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 or anither folder? Thanks again for your help here.

Guillaume

Yes, in Vista64 the 32 bit applications is in C:\Program Files (x86)\.

I've loaded Neo Scene on my system that has PPro CS4 (and Elements 7). While the timeline runs okay for Neo Scene converted 5DII files in Elements, PPro CS4 won't run these files smoothly. Of more concern, the converted 5DII clips seem to have crushed blacks, similar to the issue that was resolved with QT 7.6. I'm wondering if there is a color conversion issue.

Go see David Newmans blog:
CineForm Insider

It has good explanation of what is going on.

Yes, I had read that; Neo Scene should be able to correctly cover the color range with Premiere, but that's not what I'm seeing - I see it crushing the blacks. I've submitted a ticket with RGB-parade examples.

I have this issue on two different systems, and I'm interested in what others are seeing; is it just me?

Put a 32-bit color correction filter and lift the blacks and lower the whites, all the data is there.

That works, but it seem like lots of steps to recover the data. Maybe I'm missing something, I'm using the Three-Way-Color Corrector in CS4. Is there an easier way? And how would you do this in Elements?

This is very easy for Prospect HD under Premiere and Vegas users, but you are correct that not making it automatic for Elements users should be something to address. The way we currently handle the data preserves the most tonal detail (we don't get the bands, showing as spikes in the history on my blog), however is you use an simplified NLE, sometime you want to range reduced data (spikes and all.) Submit to support a "limit range" feature request to be added to Neo Scene.

Crash in CS4 w/ Neo Scene
 

Does Neo Scene work in CS4. If not when will it be available?

It works in CS4, just has CS4 expects third codec to perform, we just haven't offered any acceleration yet. Are planning acceleration in two steps:

1) the CineForm CS4 importer that allows deep pixel access to CineForm AVI (more than CS4's VFW 8-bit default) and is a good deal faster than native CS4 VFW decoding in may cases. This will be included in all PC distributions.

2) Professional customers will be looking for Prospect HD/4K v4, which adds real acceleration to Premiere, typically 3-4 times faster for multi-layer playback.

Hi David,

When are you expecting to release Prospect HD working w/ CS4? I'm ok with paying a premium compared to the other options if I can get the 3x time accelerator factor with a good laptop (i.e. dual core 2.8GHz, 3GB RAM, 7200RPM external eSata hard-drive).
Thanks,

G.