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David M. Cole May 1st, 2012 12:48 AM

CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Should we expect Cineform plug-in support for CS6 Premiere Pro fairly soon after it's launched? The Premiere + Cineform stereoscopic workflow is indispensable.

Andreas Caemmerer May 1st, 2012 12:59 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
+1

-Andreas

Carlo Macchiavello May 1st, 2012 12:49 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
if you install actual cineform on premiere, you not have acceleration of cs5.5 but... cineform work fine, you can setup a custom sequence, with cineform preview.
you can use a usual workflow, and if you copy cineform folder plugins from cs5.5 to 6.0 plugins you have also color correction and more plug.
for me premiere cs6 is only a cs5.5 + some plugins like stabilizer and not more...
no more features, no more speed on encoding, no more than a small restile...

David M. Cole May 1st, 2012 02:04 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Excellent. Thanks!

Billy Payn May 8th, 2012 09:24 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Does this mean that you can render a cineform file out of premiere and after effects?

Carlo Macchiavello May 9th, 2012 01:40 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
yes you can, you have usual cineform avi option on both software (if you manually copy cineform plugin on right folder).

Charles W. Hull May 12th, 2012 09:56 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlo Macchiavello (Post 1732270)
yes you can, you have usual cineform avi option on both software (if you manually copy cineform plugin on right folder).

Hmm, I can't figure this out. Which plugin goes into which CS6 folder?

David M. Cole May 13th, 2012 10:46 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
For CS6 Mac:

From:
Library:Application Support:Adobe:Common:Plug-ins:CS5.5:MediaCore:

- copy all of the CF*.* files

To:
Library:Application Support:Adobe:Common:Plug-ins:CS6:MediaCore:

Dan Herrmann May 13th, 2012 11:06 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Why is it so difficult for GOPRO to develop a simple CS6 installer.

I go back to the Prospect days and remember upgrading for the new CS4 which Cineform never completed.

Now as Red Giant, Boris, Digieffects and most other software providers have issued their upgrade I check this board to see that once again it is on the end user to migrate files in order to use this product.

I thought GoPro would instill some managment oversight into this business butr it is still operating independently and now we never see upgrades. It is a Pinnacle systems before Avid type product line.

I have so many archieved files in Cineform that I shot back in my tape days and I can work around it but what would be so difficult for GOPro to issue their editing platform in the new CS6.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate Jake and all the help I received over the years but this not a good reflection on a innovative business like GoPro-----why did they buy Cineform?

Charles W. Hull May 13th, 2012 06:01 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David M. Cole (Post 1733048)
For CS6 Mac:
From:
Library:Application Support:Adobe:Common:Plug-ins:CS5.5:MediaCore:
- copy all of the CF*.* files
To:
Library:Application Support:Adobe:Common:Plug-ins:CS6:MediaCore:

Got it, thanks.

Trond Saetre May 21st, 2012 03:21 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David M. Cole (Post 1733048)
For CS6 Mac:

From:
Library:Application Support:Adobe:Common:Plug-ins:CS5.5:MediaCore:

- copy all of the CF*.* files

To:
Library:Application Support:Adobe:Common:Plug-ins:CS6:MediaCore:

I see this is specified for MAC, but I have tried to do the same thing on windows, and it doesn't seem to work for me.
Anyone knows which plug-in folder the Cineform files should be copied to on a windows platform?
(I'm using Vista 64-bit)


Edit:
I'm using the trial of the Premiere CS6 (production premium suite). Will this affect the Cineform issue? Will I have to buy the CS6 before the Cineform options will be available?

Ray Bell May 21st, 2012 04:55 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
I don't think you can do HD in the tryouts.... at least that is the way it was in the past...

Ian Lewis May 22nd, 2012 01:41 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
I copied cf plugins from CS5 to CS6. I have the effects and the export, but no sequence presets - but you don't really need them.

Copied
from
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins
and
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5\Plug-ins\Common\CineForm
to the corresponding folders in CS6

(This is the trial version of CS6 becasuse I'm still waiting for my upgrade serial.)

Trond Saetre May 22nd, 2012 11:20 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Thanks, I will try that too.
I am already able to both import, edit, and export Cineform avi files in the CS6 trial.
But any Cineform effects or transitions are missing. Hopefully that will change after copying those folders from my CS3.

Ian Lewis May 23rd, 2012 05:03 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
UPDATE
I discovered that I had two sets of CF effects etc, so I removed one set of CF folders and PPRO6 started crashing. The upshot is that it appears that the CF plugins need to be in
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS6\MediaCore\Cineform

Trond Saetre May 30th, 2012 10:04 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Update:
I have now bought the CS6 production premium, so it's no longer a trial.
But I have still not access to any Cineform effects etc.

Copied the Cineform plugin folder to the folder Ian described in the previous post, still no access.

David Newman May 30th, 2012 10:07 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
The CineForm Studio release with CS6 support will be next week.

Trond Saetre May 30th, 2012 10:09 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Thank you, David.

Will the support for CS6 be available for the "old" Cineform Neo, or will this be for the Cineform Studio only?

Dan Herrmann May 30th, 2012 02:24 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Thank you. This is what everyone has been asking that have already commited to CS6. Any news on the output conversion speed, it is just a nightmare at the current rate and causes us opt for other options when time is important which is daily.





Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 1735790)
The CineForm Studio release with CS6 support will be next week.


David Newman May 30th, 2012 03:05 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Neo well need to be upgraded to CineForm Studio Premium for $49.

David

Trond Saetre May 30th, 2012 03:15 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Thank you, David.

Mark Wilson May 30th, 2012 04:15 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Will it work with Speedgrade CS6?

David Newman May 30th, 2012 04:28 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
SpeedGrade has used CineForm for years, unless Adobe broke it (I haven't tested) I expect it works as it always did.

Mark Wilson May 30th, 2012 05:56 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Yes, I think they did break it. Several users on the Adobe Speedgrade forum reporting that this is not working.

Maybe you could give your 'mates' a call and let them know.

Regards,

Mark Wilson.

David Newman May 30th, 2012 06:24 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
It is working here. What has broken?

David

Mark Wilson May 30th, 2012 10:48 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
1 Attachment(s)
Thanks for testing that! Gives me hope I can get it working.

Explanation from one user using up-to-date codec here:
Adobe Forums: Output to Cineform AVI


I am on an older version (6.0.0.434; Neo 4.32) and get similar results when rendering from Speedgrade: Audio drops out after a few seconds, and video looks like this -

Attachment 1338439442

David Newman May 31st, 2012 07:50 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
I thouhgt you are talking of decoding, SG never supported export to CineForm. We tried for years to convince them to add that.

Mark Wilson May 31st, 2012 09:55 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
OK, that's too bad; would have made a nice workflow.

Thanks for the quick response!

David Newman May 31st, 2012 02:21 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Seem if their VfW interface to the CineForm codec is broken, yet the QuickTIme export to CineForm is working fine.

In either case, we hope that SpeedGrade targets using more than 8-bit for their streaming outputs, which VFW and QuickTime seem to me in SG.

Ed Kishel June 6th, 2012 04:16 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
just saw a recent tweet via the cineform blog: "no longer necessary to do manual CS6 installs, new CineForm Studio builds are now available."

so we now have CS6 compatibility with Studio Premium?

Charles W. Hull June 6th, 2012 07:41 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Kishel (Post 1736981)
just saw a recent tweet via the cineform blog: "no longer necessary to do manual CS6 installs, new CineForm Studio builds are now available."

so we now have CS6 compatibility with Studio Premium?

Yeh, I loaded the new Studio build last night - and I just checked. PP CS6 now shows Cineform presets.

Ed Kishel June 7th, 2012 10:49 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
ok- just installed it and the presets are there. Looks good so far. I figured though that there would be an official announcement or something. Except for the tweet- not a peep in the support and updates section at cineform.com. Every other video plugin/app I use is touting their CS6 compatibility with horns and all :)

Ann Bens June 16th, 2012 02:49 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 1735864)
Neo well need to be upgraded to CineForm Studio Premium for $49.

David

Which Neo would that be? I have been working with 5.6.2 and the upgrade tells me my serial in not eligible.

David Newman June 16th, 2012 03:01 PM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Contact support regarding your serial number. Neo is the direct upgrade path, but you can also upgrade from Neo HD and Neo 4K with supports help.

Bob Hart June 17th, 2012 10:27 AM

Re: CS6 Premiere Pro
 
Sorry. A dense-headed question I has asked. The answer to my question was in a previous response.


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