thanks I checked the folders and it seems some parts of aspecthd trial were there (I unsinstalled it before) deleted and uninstalled all ,then reinstalled prospecthd and now it works

regards

Prospect activation
 

Cool. I just read about moving activation between machines, so I can edit while on the road or away. I understand about registering the second machine at your site. How flexible is the move? I assume that activation is similiar to other scemes (like the macromedia and right hemisphere products) that require an active internet connection to temporarily park the license on a server?

Something like that, and yes it does require an internet connection.

Peter, here's how re-assigning an activation works for all CineForm products. Yes, you MUST have an Internet connection, although you can manage the process from a different machine than your editing machine if that machine is not online.

1. Go to the CineForm activation page: www.cineform.com/register.html. This page will tell you exactly what you need to do to deactivate one machine.

2. Once the machine is deactivated (takes about two minutes, including gathering the requested information) you can immediately activate a different machine. Takes another one minute.

Nice. Thanks guys. I'm placing the order tommorrow.

Prospect and 5.1 audio
 

I had a partially completed project done with PPro 1.5.1 and cineform encoded files. Some of those files were converted from a Pany HVX with 5.1 audio embedded, (don't know how I missed that setting). Anyway, I only needed the visuals so I disabled the audio for those clips.

Having upgraded to PPro 2.0 for Prospect, I then loaded the Prospect trial v2b (my purchased copy is still on back order). Upon opening or importing the PPro 1.5.1 project with the HVX files, PPro 2.0 would crash (disappearing magic trick).

Re-rendering a test file with the 5.1 stripped out of it proved to be the fix. I'm not sure if it's a PPro issue or cineform. A search turned up nothing on this issue.

Upgrading projects from 1.5.1 to 2.0 is not advisible for Premiere in general, although CineForm has no issues with this. As importing the project didn't fix the issue (normally that would) try isolating the problem; try importing the project with the media moved (so Premiere can't find it, you link it later) and also try importing the project into desktop mode (if that work import that project into a CineForm preset.) These tests will help determine if its is project or media related.

David, it was the audio stream in the HVX clips that was the culprit. I wasn't planning on upgrading to PPro 2 until learning about prospect having that recent requirement.

I moved the subject clips to a seperate folder and offlined them. The project loaded without a hitch.

I have to perform some color correction on the HVX stuff anyway, it will be interesting to see how this fares better on a 10bit timeline, though it's 8bit source.

I'm getting off subject, but wow... PPro 2... wow.

Prospect, Minor Overlay switching annoyance
 

When using overlay in PPro 1.5.1 on an HDV project and overlay 1:1 preview is set, overlay works as expected. However, when doing so in a PPro 2 project with Prospect, I get an annoying flickering as the second monitor changes focus back and forth to the desktop. When ever I playback the timeline (spacebar), the focus changes to overlay and the video plays out. Hit stop, and it's back to the desktop. Annoying. In PPro 1.5.1 the overlay focus remains until I minimize or move away from the application (as it should).

Playback is also letterboxed on my LMD and not full screen as well. Not sure if it's the limitation of the graphics card, however I have a Quadro FX 3450. I also have the latest driver, v9.1.3.6.

Any suggestions?

On my second workstation, a Dell with Quadro FX 1000, forceware v84, the video overlay to second monitor keeps focus, however, when playing back from the timeline, the video flickers and switches to full screen. Once stopped it blanks out and then jumps back down to 3/4 size.

When I open the project as PPro 2 standard HDV, I get full focus 3/4 size video and no flicker, hesitation or jump. I'm ok with 3/4 sized video, it's the switching that is making overlay preview difficult. How is the prospect handling overlay different from PPro?

Yes, the overlay is handled differently for performance reasons. Of course Prospect HD/2K users should opt for the AJA output if they can as that output is perfect.

I understand. However, not all my projects are SDI but HDV. Aside from that, I think there is a conflict with the graphics card video overlay switched on and playing back video full screen option. If I enable video overlay with full screen playback disabled, I get nothing. Only if I have both options turned on with Prospect do I get this switching issue.

With PPro 2's own HD-SDI and HDV modes, I can have overlay on and full screen off and it works as expected.

HDV projects are not restricted from HDSDI output and monitoring. Most of our Prospect HD Edit users are editing HDV or P2 media.

If a particular mode is flat not working, that worth submitting a trouble ticket on. Otherwise when you get you Xena card all your concerns with vanish.

Yes. I have the Xena HS installed on one machine, I just can't preview from it until my HD-SDI option board arrives for my LMD monitor. Then I can use two monitors for the PC and preview full raster on a third via Xena (so yeah, problem goes away for that). It's just that I have a second machine for edits only, without a Xena, and was hoping to get by with overlay for that.

I'll wait till I get the aforementioned option board. I may just have to spring for another Xena. Growing pains. Ugh. Thanks for your help.

ProspectHD and Slide show
 

I'm in a process of converting some old SD Premiere Pro 1.51 slide show projects to PPro 2.0/ProspectHD. The old projects are imported to PPro 2.0 ones such that the timeline consists of offline files, and only then the files are linked to 8-bit Photoshop files having sRGB color space. As a result, the system gets very unstable and results in some sort of memory problem.

To avoid the problems I have to export every slide (PSD-file) first to CFHD avi and then rebuild the slide show one slide at time from the avi-files. Any ideas, what is going on, and how the problem could becircumvented?

The computer should have enough resources; It's the most powerful Intel Core 2 Duo machine with 4GB of memory, the work HD's are configured as raid, etc.

1.5.1 to 2.0 is not a reliable project immigration, I don't know why, but it is an issue with Premiere not the CineForm tools. You are correct in your discovery that CineForm AVIs can take fewer resources that image files. Your 4GB of memory unfortunately does not help 32-bit Windows applications, which can only address around 1.5GB each, so more memory only helps you run more applications. So to avoid the Premiere low memory warnings, you may need to break your project up into reels that are edited separately before splicing flatten exports together (this a how feature projects should be done anyway.)

Positive Experience Prospect Hd
 

Been Pushing Prospect HD to the MAX ! for the past 3 months, neglecting
my wife . Cutting HDV Footage / 12 tapes down to 1 hour . The footage was
shot with "The Chainsaw' for an HDV related seminar here in Cape Town.

The purpose of the seminar was not based on branding cameras but pushing the format to the extreme / Motion encoding - stormy seas / colours /
hi light / shadows / noise / camera encoder quality / focus / movement etc. THe showreel for the seminar was cut on PPRO 2 AND PROSPECT HD, screened via HD projector.

The response was overwhelming from a crowd of experienced filmakers.
Canon SA - has teamed up for the next seminar.

Thank's to the Cineform Co. / Prospect HD/ A - ONE ! NUMBER ONE ! !
viva ! / Cape Town / South-Africa.

Prospect convert HDV 60i to 1920x1080 23.976
 

What settings are required to convert HDV 60i to 1920x1080 23.976, can it be done during capture (capture M2T file only then convert to intermediate later?) Audio sync issues?

Thanks
Mike

Depends of your source and software license. But in all cases you can do it is single step with the real-time cpapture convert, with scene detection on for prefect audio sync. Only Prospect HD or 2K is licensed to encode 1920x1080, otherwise you should stick with the HDV standards 1440x1080 (or down-res to 1280x720 -- which is a great solution for most HDV sources which can't resolve 1080p.) If you source was CF24 from a Sony Z1, or the 24p from Sony V1 you should use the remove 3:2 pulldown option. If you source is 24F from a Canon HDV camera, the 24p extraction is automatic (keep remove 3:2 pulldown option OFF.) If you source is standard 1080i60, then have "remove 3:2 pulldown" and "deinterlace" checkboxes set on.

ProspectHd & Cineform Raw
 

Hello,
I'd like to know if ProspectHd is capable of encoding Raw files like Bayer16 into Cineform Raw. I'd like to know for the simple reason that one can have varied sources of footage, some being Raw such as from Reelstreams Adromeda or even industrial cameras.
It would be nice to know one can include all this in a single Cineform workflow.

ProspectHd & Blackmagic's HDMI
 

Hello,
I am aware that Blackmagic's Intensity is only capable of 8-bit 4:2:2.
I need clarification on if using ProspectHd with Blackmagic's DeckLink HD Studio HDMI and Analog Capture Card, & a camera like Sony's HVR-V1, will yield TRUE 10-bit cineform intermediate.

Prospect HD comes with the RAW decoder and support for RAW editing, but today the RAW encoding is licensed separately (currently only by camera vendors) as 99.9% of users have no need for RAW encoding outside of camera acquisition. When exporting CineForm RAW from an NLE or compositor you encode to CineForm Intermediate (or anything else.) Reelstream or industrial camera vendors are open to license the RAW encoder. If you personally have an application that needs a RAW encoding license, please contact CineForm directly.

The Intensity card is capable of 10-bit over HDMI yet cameras like Sony V1U only support eight (not a Blackmagic limitation.) Even with 8-bit sources, Prospect HD can encode with 10-bit precision (for a true 10-bit Cineform Intermediate.)

But only 1080i. . .

. . .not 24p nor 25p or am I missing something?

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.ph...816#post633816

You are missing the fact that there is pulldown applied; 24p is typical carried in 60i via 3-2 pulldown (just as it is with Canon's XL-H1 XH-G1.) CineForm has been extracting pulldown in real-time for years now. So yes you get 24p from 1080i60 when using a Sony V1U.

HDMI compared to HDV
 

Hello,

Just curious, has anyone captured HDMI via Blackmagic while recording to tape, and then captured the HDV version and comparing the difference to see the damage that going to HDV does?

Thanks,
Ron

Read my lastest blog entry on this subject : http://cineform.blogspot.com/index.html The pixelcorps guys just did this test.

Prospect HD questions
 

Hi there,

I'm planning to finally make the leap to HD. I've done a price comparison for upgrading to a fully uncompressed HD system with a RAID6 array versus buying the Cineform "Ingest (HD-SDI & component HD I/O) bundle". It looks like I'll save a few hundred quid by going for the Cineform option and I also like the fact that the Cineform option will give me far less data backup and archive headaches.

Please may I ask some questions about Prospect HD:

1) What is the price of the Prospect HD-Ingest + (HD-SDI & component HD I/O) bundle for UK customers? The US price is $3989. Will the UK price be around £2030? (That currency conversion was done on XE.com).

2) Can I ingest HD-SDI to Cineform RAW? Or is Cineform RAW only available when capturing directly from the Silicon Imaging cameras?

3) I've heard that Cineform are developing a 4:4:4 codec. Will that be a free update to Prospect HD? Will I be able to ingest dual-link HD-SDI to Cineform 4:4:4?

4) Which AJA card is supplied with the Prospect HD ingest + (HD-SDI & component HD I/O) bundle? Is the card PCI-e?

5) is my processor fast enough for ingesting HD-SDI to Cineform? I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 running at 2.2GHz with 3GB of RAM.

6) Which performs best with Cineform & AJA - WinXP-64bit or WinXP-32bit?

7) Will Prospect HD with the bundled AJA card downconvert to SD on the fly so I can symaltaneously monitor in SD and HD?

8) Will Cineform support Premiere Pro CS3 and AE CS3?

Sorry for all the questions! Thanks in advance,
Jack

We accept dollars, so your credit card will convert using whatever conversion metrics are applicable at the time.

CineForm RAW is only an ingest format directly from Bayer sensors, or from uncompressed RAW files that were captured directly from Bayer sensors. Once an image has been processed in-camera it no longer qualifies for CineForm RAW encoding.

We will be announcing our product strategy with our 444 codec before NAB. But suffice it to say that any existing Prospect HD customer will get the CineForm 444 codec at no charge.

Regarding 444 ingest, you will need an AJA Xena 2K card and Prospect 2K, BUT we don't currently support that card yet. We will support it sometime in the next couple months however. In the mean time the 444 codec is best used for rendering into or out of. Also, no product announcement here, but the visual quality testing we did vs HDCam SR was performed on a Wafian D2D recorder prototype that used a Xena 2K card.

We have an order option for the OEM version of the Xena LH (PCIX) or LHe (PCIe). In this case OEM means that AJA disables the use of their Machina software (uncompressed) on the OEM version we provide.

No. You'll need more horsepower. Please see our Prospect HD product page and read the HW configuration section.

XP 32-bit. There are numerous HW driver issues on 64-bit.

I assume you mean for timeline monitoring, right? If so, I'll have to answer this later. There is a subtlety about timeline monitoring an HD project at SD that I'll have to check on....

Yes.

No problem - glad to help....

Brilliant! Thanks loads for the very swift and informative reply.

Ahh, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the explanation.

OK - just to make sure I understand this correctly... say I buy Prospect HD with an AJA LHe card - am I correct in thinking that I'll be able to render and playback 4:4:4 but I wont be able to injest 4:4:4?

OK. Say I want a system which can do BOTH uncompressed HD and Cineform. Could I buy myself a fast RAID array, a retail AJA LHe card (for doing uncompressed) and also buy a copy of Cineform Aspect HD? (I understand that Aspect HD can't encode-on-ingest). Could I then capture as uncompressed, render those uncompressed files to Cineform and playback those Cineform files using my AJA LHe card? (The reason I'd like this setup is because most of my projects are short-form like short films and music videos - I will have enough storage space to keep these projects uncompressed and I do quite a lot of effects work where 4:4:4 would be really helpful. Occasionally I do longer-form projects where it'd be really useful to be able to compress the HD files)


Yes, you're right - I'd like to be able to monitor in SD when playing back from the timeline.

Thanks again for all your help!

Jack

That is correct. But remember the material you ingest through the LHe card is single-link (YUV 4:2:2) not dual-link (RGB 4:4:4). To ingest 4:4:4 (uncompressed or compressed) you need a Xena 2K card.



Yes, you can do exactly as you describe. You can always capture uncompressed and render into any resolution or chroma format CineForm files. But ... Aspect HD is not the right product - AHD is limited to HDV 4:2:2 resolution (1440x1080) upon rendering. Our RGB 4:4:4 codec will be part of Prospect 2K which is what you will need. Also...we are making some product announcements ahead of NAB that I think everybody will like, including both features and pricing updates, and rolling our 444 technology into the mix. Remember, we haven't formally announced it yet, so I don't want to go into all those details quite yet.

Update: Yes, you can monitor component SD as output when using the OEM Xena card from a CineForm HD timeline.

Brilliant, thanks loads for your reply.

Prospect Rocks!
 

Tonight I'm watching the timeline on what is the final render of four-month long project. Not that I worked all four-months on it, mind you, but a particularly difficult shoot that involved four separate shoots in three locations covering a rather simple or routine Peripherally inserted central line catheter (or PICC for short).

The shoot was my first experiment in HD, and so involved a Sony HDR-HC1, a rented HVX200, and some follow-up with my newly acquired Canon XH-G1.

This is not a high-end, heavy budget, Hollywood feature. It's more or less your basic product instructional video that will appeal to a small niche audience: The nurses who are taking over the responsibility of placing PICCs. So, other than praise from my boss, it's unlikely I'll get any nominations or awards for this work.

So, then why bother even posting? Well, it's not the content that makes Prospect what it is; it's what prospect can do to the content.

When I started this project some months ago, I cracked open my newly install Premiere Pro 1.5 and tried working in HDV. It was a struggle in futility. Fortunately I read about cineform on this forum and installed the Prospect trial. A simple test convinced me to start over from scratch and recapture and convert the media to CFHD. Unfortunately the project hit a long delay, and my trial expired before I could resume.

Resolved, I halted production and editing until a budget was drawn to purchase a prospect license. In fact, I would not be using Premiere today if it wasn't for cineform. I don't care how fast a machine is, as there are very few faster than a BOXX 7400 quad, as raw horses don't make a good thoroughbred like Cineform.

Second, I believe that cineform, like any software, is only good as the folks whom stand behind it, and I am convinced that both Jake Segraves and David Newman are on my team. I'd have to pay a consultants fee to get the same service elsewhere.

The bottom line is that it's a great feeling to have a system of support and software, comparable to high budget Hollywood production, in the hands of the everyday average editing grunt like me.

To think that I no longer have to be the expert at keying 4:1:1 dv, or being able to perform real 10bit color correction rather than just reading about in a rag, and wishing I have the six-figure budget needed to do even half the things I can do now. To watch folks walk by an HD monitor, stop and stare at something that I shot and cut, and the finished piece looks exactly like the edit right on the timeline! To wonder who managed to cough up the huge budget to get that kind of quality?

Yeah, Prospect Rocks!

will Prospect 2k?
 

When will CineForm 2k/I be able to make HDlink = to Machina?
I would love to have the same features/framerates/Control ,422 control guys please)that Machina has but with a CineForm back, and extras.

Of course HDLink does a lot more than Machina. However AJA might add CineForm compression to Machina if enough ask.

I would love that

I guess the day we can boot from the same OS Drive with both would be cool too.

Again an AJA request. ;)

Prospect v3 problem.
 

I have downloaded Prospect V3 upgrade, uninstalled Aspect and installed Prospect.

On existing already captured files (AspectHD and its HDLink function) it works fine but on new captures in HD link, it has a problem. On capture and conversion in HD link, the capture rolls through to the end but the conversion stalls. Indicated CPU usage is practically zero but close out of Prospect, start another app and it hangs. CPU usage is then reported as 100%.

Capturing the M2T file works fine on its own. Separately converting the M2T file also stalls. Despite there being no scene detection selected, the conversion runs to 76mb, suggests the job as done by the "start" tile re-appearing. The separately completed .avi file plays fine.

The uncompleted .avi file locks the whole system up into 100% CPU usage if any attempt is made to play it.

The M2T file plays fine in VideoLan.

My computer OS is XP Professional with Service Pack 2 installed. NLE is Premiere Pro 2. With Aspect HD installed, everything worked trouble-free so this new turn of events is a bit of a worry.

The computer however is a no-name and not an Adobe approved system.


In an earlier separate enquiry relating to 2K files I got this advice here at dvinfo.

"You may want to consider either NEO HD ($599) or NEO 2K ($799) for converting DPX files up to 1920x1080 4:2:2 10-bit or 2048x2048 4:4:4 12-bit. You can upgrade Aspect HD to Prospect HD for only $400 this month and that comes with NEO HD."

In the Prospect v3 that I have installed, I can find no reference to DPX fles or Neo HD. Is the Neo HD function buried in the guts somewhere slaving away in the background?


Any advice appreciated.

Try a reinstall as if Aspect HD work Prospect HD will. NEO HD is in the guts of Prospect, however the DPX conversion has not been added yet -- in the meantime use After Effects for DPX conversions.