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Stephen Armour July 24th, 2007 01:54 PM

David, I think I might have a clue. It looks like the Prospect tryout had loaded Aspect, NOT Prospect! I looked in the system hive and can see Aspect and it seems to still be loaded (though I never loaded it at anytime on this machine).

The only way it could have gotten on this machine is via that tryout for Prospect!

I think it crashes because Aspect can't handle the 1920, doesn't that make sense to you? Is this even possible?

Maybe I should run that software you have that deletes all references to Aspect and Prospect and then check the hive for any remains of them and reload a verified version from you?

Let me know as soon as you can, thank you

Stephen Armour July 25th, 2007 08:31 AM

Hello CF? Anybody here? You guys must really be busy!

Are you having probs with your server again? We've tried 3 or 4 times to re-download Prospect to different email addresses, but the email link never showed up...

Stephen Armour July 25th, 2007 09:28 AM

Here's the error message from the XP Application Event Viewer. Looks pretty much like CF is the problem:

"Faulting application adobe premiere pro.exe, version 3.0.1.0, faulting module cfrtcompiler.prm, version 2.0.6.89, fault address 0x0000e50f."

That was only a CF'ed video (1920x1080) with a title on top and an alpha-layered, uncompressed little transition on top.

David Newman July 25th, 2007 09:38 AM

This error has been fixed, and will be in the next build.

Stephen Armour July 25th, 2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 718351)
This error has been fixed, and will be in the next build.

Is that to be released soon? We're getting desperate...

David Newman July 25th, 2007 10:02 AM

ASAP. We may have a replacement module today. Note: this is a CS3 vs 2.0 difference, the same code is running, but under CS3 it leaks memory causing the crash after a peroid of render (some systems faster than others.) Seems like Adobe didn't tell us something (again.) :)

Stephen Armour July 25th, 2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 718369)
ASAP. We may have a replacement module today. Note: this is a CS3 vs 2.0 difference, the same code is running, but under CS3 it leaks memory causing the crash after a peroid of render (some systems faster than others.) Seems like Adobe didn't tell us something (again.) :)

Thank you, Adobe! Sounds familiar...memory leaks + Premiere and all. Somewhere I've heard this story for many years.

We'll be looking for that update, thanks much.

David Newman July 25th, 2007 10:35 PM

Here is an replacement CineForm AVI Exporter to try under CS3.

http://www.miscdata.com/downloads/CFRTCompiler.zip

Unzip are replace the one located here C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm

We have rendered out many complex projects will this one. So give it a go. We will likely do a full release in a few days.

Stephen Armour July 26th, 2007 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 718715)
Here is an replacement CineForm AVI Exporter to try under CS3.

http://www.miscdata.com/downloads/CFRTCompiler.zip

Unzip are replace the one located here C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm

We have rendered out many complex projects will this one. So give it a go. We will likely do a full release in a few days.

Still giving the error message "error compiling movie, unknown error", but hasn't crashed out of CS3 PP on the second try like before, so it does not give the program error in the Event Viewer.

I guess that's a little progress???...(but not for getting any work done).

You have another test compiler to try?

David Newman July 26th, 2007 09:48 AM

We are not seeing that after many hours of exports. Is it happening at a particular frame?

Stephen Armour July 26th, 2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 718948)
We are not seeing that after many hours of exports. Is it happening at a particular frame?

Just to double check, I opened a new standard HDV project and stuck a six layer mixture of video/transitions/special effects/titles, etc, including CF-ed material in various sizes. Nothing crashed, no errors, zip. Perfect previews, perfect renders. Normal.

Then I copied and pasted the the exact same material into a new Prospect project (1920x1080i) and tried the same thing. Previews worked when scrubbing, but the second I tried to render...the exact same error message as usual.

I'm going to reload the old CFRTcompiler and see if the program crashes also return. This has to be some kind of memory leak error like you stated. It crashes at different points, but never finishes more than 97%.

Oh, just remembered one more thing: When I pasted the material into the Prospect project, PP only asked to render the material with alpha layers. It was precisely those that apparently crashed and gave render errors.

Stephen Armour July 26th, 2007 12:42 PM

I reloaded the old CF render engine and it crashed out of the Prospect project as before, but the error message in Event Viewer has changed to:

"Faulting application adobe premiere pro.exe, version 3.0.1.0, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x00064ed1."

I returned to the standard HDV project (without CF as the render engine and no "real time" CF stuff, but including CF captured material), then pasted the exact same material as in the Prospect project and everything worked again. No probs rendering whatsoever.

Go figure.

Stephen Armour July 26th, 2007 01:09 PM

BTW, when I turned off "frame blending", and tried to render, this is the error message:

Faulting application adobe premiere pro.exe, version 3.0.1.0, faulting module cfencoder2.ax, version 3.1.1.176, fault address 0x0004cc4b.

This was with the old compiler loaded. When I reloaded your new CFRTcompiler again, the program crashes also stopped. Turning the "frame blending" off in a Prospect project, just produced the same normal error message, but no program crash.

Stephen Armour July 26th, 2007 09:49 PM

New update loaded. Helped....some
 
David, I loaded the new 3.0.4 update. It easily rendered the normal transitions and everything ......... EXCEPT the full uncompressed transitions with ALPHA layers! (Titles made under PP also rendered easily):

Here's the new error message when PP crashed out:

"Faulting application adobe premiere pro.exe, version 3.0.1.0, faulting module cfencoder2.ax, version 3.2.1.184, fault address 0x0005267b."

?????

David Newman July 26th, 2007 10:36 PM

We aren't seeing this but I'll check it out Monday.


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